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This is not uncommon. However, if you are selling your iPhone 13 to apple on the 16th when you pickup your iPhone 14 this could be a pain considering you have to transfer your esim.
 
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A day-one update means that you buy the product with the original version and, before anyone even used it, you need to update it because they've found and solved bugs in the time between packing it and releasing it.
Usually it's considered to be a bad thing because if it was small bugs, they could have waited for a later update with more users' feedback and more fixes while if they have to rush such an (annoying) update, that users have to face on their first day with the device, it means they delivered a product with some kinda nasty bug and miscalculated the release date.
All gamers here know what I'm talking about, sometimes you preorder a very expensive game and if you don't apply the day-one patch, you get characters with no face, a game that crashes or level that are impossible to complete.
To me, that's why you should NEVER preorder.
But if you get the update as soon as you set it up. What difference does it make. Why never preorder. Do you know how long it tastes for phones to have any updated software on it. Most of the boxes will have the older version for months.
 
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The only thing is. You can’t do migration without updating the phone first right?

So you gotta update the new phone and then reset it and migrate it all.
 
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But if you get the update as soon as you set it up. What difference does it make. Why never preorder. Do you know how long it tastes for phones to have any updated software on it. Most of the boxes will have the older version for months.
Ok, I'm mostly not a fan of preordering software (especially downloadable software, that just makes no sense) but in general with hardware too I strongly suggest to wait until other people "test" stuff for you, unless you're willing to take some risk. Even Apple, which I consider to be more reliable than most other companies, has its own history of flaws in products with very new hardware or software features.
I haven't said that you shouldn't preorder stuff with a day-one patch because it's annoying to install it. The problem is what a day-one patch usually means, which is "we screwed something with this new software and sold it before it was ready".
Then, of course, some people will be willing to take the risk for the sake of having the hottest device (I totally agree that's very cool) but I think they should know it can actually compromise the experience and all who don't need a new phone immediately should wait.
 
It’s about time this type of functionality is included with iOS.
Agreed. However existing in market iPhone’s should also get the update upon retail release of newer models that come with the big fix.

1 particular bug is blank notifications or overlapping notifications on iPhone 12/13 mini’s.

Ive already seen pages cut off or blank sections when scrolling in safari (cleared cache closed all tabs, cleared history) and relaunched Safari - no change.
 

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IMPORTANT TO NOTE: If you updated your current iPhone to iOS 16 prior to receiving your iPhone 14, this means that your current iPhone's backup will not initially load onto your new iPhone 14 because the new iPhone has a down-rev iOS. You cannot install a backup from an iOS version that is newer than the device you're loading it onto.

You will have to set up your new iPhone without loading your backup, perform the iOS update, then restore the new iPhone to load your current backup.

This exact scenario happened to me two years ago and was an eye-opener ... I figured that my new 12PM would come with the same iOS 14.0 that was released days before I received it, which it wasn't.
That’s false, the new 14 devices will still run a 16.0 version. You are only blocked from importing backups when your current device has a higher version number than the new one you set up (so 16.1). Build version is irrelevant in that regard.

Nevertheless, iOS 14 (or 15?) and up support just in time updating of new devices to import incompatible backups.
 
Why do you still have the beta profile installed? Are you trying to stay on the beta upgrade track? 14.1 and so on?
I just never removed it but wondering if I should now that IOS 16 is out. Just don't want to have any issues with the 14pm when I receive it. If i go ahead and remove the profile, will i have to download a different version of ios16?
 
I just never removed it but wondering if I should now that IOS 16 is out. Just don't want to have any issues with the 14pm when I receive it. If i go ahead and remove the profile, will i have to download a different version of ios16?
it's like I said, you are on the beta upgrade track. If you want unreliable betas being installed going forward, then that is what you are currently set up to do. If you want the normal stable releases, delete the profile. You are on the final release of 16 right now and when the 14 drops, it will need to be upgraded day 1 because it has an older version of 16 installed versus what you have on your phone now.
 
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I haven't said that you shouldn't preorder stuff with a day-one patch because it's annoying to install it. The problem is what a day-one patch usually means, which is "we screwed something with this new software and sold it before it was ready".
Then, of course, some people will be willing to take the risk for the sake of having the hottest device (I totally agree that's very cool) but I think they should know it can actually compromise the experience and all who don't need a new phone immediately should wait.
It could also mean that the newer iPhone 14 day-one build (which seems to be the same as the general release build from Monday) includes non-device specific security patches that were found/mitigated after finalizing the build that was loaded on the phones in the factory. Given that there were a slew of recent security updates, even for older iOS versions, this may very well reflect the current scenario.
 
I always wondered how specifically they get so many phones in the packaging updated with an iOS release that comes out at nearly the same time. It is a logistical wonder.
Me too especially since they are off. Is it constanly on low power listening for a special update frequency?
 
Let's get this to the point where the patches don't require a reboot.
I remember that being a tech industry promise, from several companies, repeatedly, and it hasn’t come.

Certainly you need to reboot if the kernel is changed, but everything else? Restart the necessary demons and services. Oh wait, everything is so hopelessly intermingled that a modular restart won’t work. Hell, we still have to reboot our systems to deal with buggy behavior that a log off & on still won’t fix.

This tech industry feature promise seems to have been forgotten by the lazy industry, and everyone else, but I haven’t forgotten.
 
It could also mean that the newer iPhone 14 day-one build (which seems to be the same as the general release build from Monday) includes non-device specific security patches that were found/mitigated after finalizing the build that was loaded on the phones in the factory. Given that there were a slew of recent security updates, even for older iOS versions, this may very well reflect the current scenario.
The note appears to say it's bug fixes, I frankly don't know if that may include security stuff, but it's surely a possibility for pushing a quick fix.
 
Wait, what happened to the old wallpapers?

I’m on 15.7 at the moment and probably installing 16 in a week or two if I don’t see any major issues.
iOS 16 removes your old wallpaper gallery. Changing your wallpaper in iOS 16 is done in home screen settings and Apple only includes several default wallpapers, none of which are from your old Wallpaper gallery. The only way to get them back is to manually download them to your photo gallery. I wish I would have known this before upgrading to iOS 16.
 
I just never removed it but wondering if I should now that IOS 16 is out. Just don't want to have any issues with the 14pm when I receive it. If i go ahead and remove the profile, will i have to download a different version of ios16?
It shouldn't matter as long as you don't download iOS 16.1 onto your current phone
 
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