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Noice.

Very noice.

But I still have patchy 5G in my area.

Because all the cell phone towers are ****.

So not noice.
 
I don't understand the sudden hate surrounding a physical SIM. It's super quick, easy and does not rely on electronic or carrier crap.

It's not like Apple is making use of the recouped space either, there is just a big piece of plastic instead.

Sorry, I should have been more clear that that was completely sarcastic. The UK model is better precisely because it does have a physical SIM. My hate is for the condescending way Apple announced it.
 
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I actually got the US model as it was cheaper so I have the eSIM 😂 hopefully won’t need the sim slot when abroad, probably will

Hmm now I wonder if I could get an EU model and if I'd have any trouble with it in the US. Not that I really care about getting the new phone, but I simply can't at this point with no physical SIM slot. Maybe by next year.
 
Hmm now I wonder if I could get an EU model and if I'd have any trouble with it in the US. Not that I really care about getting the new phone, but I simply can't at this point with no physical SIM slot. Maybe by next year.
You wouldn’t have any issues with it as I’ve just used my 13 Pro in USA, but it doesn’t support mmWave. More expensive too
 
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Sorry, I should have been more clear that that was completely sarcastic. The UK model is better precisely because it does have a physical SIM. My hate is for the condescending way Apple announced it.
Oh, sorry for not realizing the sarcasm.

Anyways, I agree with you 100% that an eSIM-only iPhone is objectively inferior to one with a SIM tray. Apple can shove their eSIM BS up their ***es.
 
Oh, sorry for not realizing the sarcasm.

Anyways, I agree with you 100% that an eSIM-only iPhone is objectively inferior to one with a SIM tray. Apple can shove their eSIM BS up their ***es.

Especially when we now know they literally just put a block of plastic in there instead. iPhone 15 better have significant improvements directly attributable to getting that space back.
 
Tested my IPhone 11 Pro indoor next to an iPhone 13.

Download speeds:
iPhone 11 Pro: 9.23 Mbps
iPhone 13 LTE: 15.26
iPhone 13 5G: 76.92

Man, I don’t care about any of the new features but the new modem definitely makes me want to update. 1.65x faster on LTE, 8.33 faster on 5G. 14 even better!
 
This. It's not like this bump in 5G speeds is gonna suddenly make your browser open up websites 10x faster.

For the vast majority of people, LTE is more than enough and I have no clue why people are so fixated on 5G, when all they do is browse MacRumors and watch YouTube on a phone.

None of us is actually benefiting from this extra speed and this is just another bigger number on paper that will mean next to nothing. Your iPhone isn't a datacenter, it's an iPhone.

It depends what you're trying to do. It could mean you get to watch a video without it buffering, or you can do a software update much faster, or download some music/TV/film quickly before you get on a plane so you can watch it on the flight. It could let you set up a new phone way faster as everything has to download again. It could make gaming more stable. You could be using it as a hotspot while you do some more serious stuff on your computer that's tethered to it.

There are all sorts of situations where people might need or want to do higher end stuff when they're not on wifi, and the faster and cheaper and more reliable mobile internet becomes, the more you can do. Life and work can throw all sorts of situations at you, and being able to do things quickly and reliably can be clutch. The more complicated your life is, the more efficient you are, the more you will appreciate this.

Just because "it's an iPhone" doesn't mean mobile internet development should arbitrarily stop at the point where you decide it's "more than enough".
 
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It depends what you're trying to do. It could mean you get to watch a video without it buffering, or you can do a software update much faster, or download some music/TV/film quickly before you get on a plane so you can watch it on the flight. It could let you set up a new phone way faster as everything has to download again. It could make gaming more stable. You could be using it as a hotspot while you do some more serious stuff on your computer that's tethered to it.

There are all sorts of situations where people might need or want to do higher end stuff when they're not on wifi, and the faster and cheaper and more reliable mobile internet becomes, the more you can do. Life and work can throw all sorts of situations at you, and being able to do things quickly and reliably can be clutch. The more complicated your life is, the more efficient you are, the more you will appreciate this.

Just because "it's an iPhone" doesn't mean mobile internet development should arbitrarily stop at the point where you decide it's "more than enough".
Like I posted just above - 76mbps versus 9mbps is a significant upgrade that most definitely makes a difference in tasks like opening up webpages etc.
 
Like I posted just above - 76mbps versus 9mbps is a significant upgrade that most definitely makes a difference in tasks like opening up webpages etc.

True. And if the network improves in your area, the speeds you're talking about are just the tip of the iceberg. I've gotten as much as 1gbps speeds on 5G on my iPhone 13 Pro Max - when you're playing with that kind of bandwidth, you're looking at much more possibility.

Upgrading from the 13 to the 14 didn't take long. The data transfer from one to the other was quick, the phone was even logged into almost everything without me having to log back in, my eSIMs transferred over effortlessly, my 2 factor authentication codes automatically transferred over. The only thing that took a little time was the apps re-downloading - if I was on 1gbps at the time, the entire process of upgrading to a new phone may have taken 20 minutes. Say you're forced to download an iOS update before you can transfer from one phone to another. 500MB on a gigabit connection doesn't take long at all.

That's just one example of what's possible.
 


The iPhone 14 Pro features faster 5G speeds on the T-Mobile and Verizon networks in the United States compared to the iPhone 13 Pro, largely thanks to a new 5G modem in the latest iPhones.

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The test by SpeedSmart shows that the iPhone 14 Pro reached average 5G speeds of 255.91 Mbps for downloads on T-Mobile compared to 173.81 Mbps on the iPhone 13 Pro. On Verizon, the iPhone 14 Pro reached average 5G download speeds of 175.56 Mbps versus 126.33 Mbps for last year's iPhone.

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The improvements in average 5G speeds on iPhone 14 Pro models are thanks to Qualcomm's Snapdragon X65 modem, offering faster speeds, improved latency, and lower energy consumption.

Article Link: iPhone 14 Pro Features Faster 5G Speeds Thanks to New Modem Chip
This is one of the main reasons I upgraded from my 13pm to my 14pro (witch I’m waiting to arrive) so I have not been able to do any testing. I would like to see a review on signal strength more than speeds but from the comments I’ve seen here and elsewhere it sounds like it’s a good amount better. Can’t wait to find out.
 
Hey, great article. I was at the Las Vegas Convention center, with a shiny iPhone 13 Red June 2022 - and the 5G I got was 240Mbps, no problem. Sorry no screen grab. There is some kind of super-coverage at the new hall, and it showed.

I wasn't complaining.
Here's a screen grab of iPhone 13 5G performance achievement - can't imagine when I'd ever need more that this (famous last 640k words)
 

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