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Blackberry guys said the same thing not too long ago - yet here we are today

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They just increase the battery size even it makes phone heavier. That means they cannot find out a way to make it more battery effective.

Always on displays has been discussed for years but never apply to iPhone. They just don't do it that way.

100% wireless charge makes battery dies much faster which they don't want to have that reputation. They earn a lot by selling iphone unique plug power cable which they would never want to stop.
You're mentioning these things like Apple won't find a solution or technology won't improve. New technology appears all the time. Even Apple's chips becoming more power efficient helps. That combined with new battery tech, a 2 day battery life is a real possibility in the near future.

Always on display - just because Apple hasn't done it yet, doesn't mean they won't. Isn't that the point - Apple introducing new features? 120hz was discussed for years, Apple eventually introduced it this year.

Re wireless charging again - there is always room for technological advances, more efficient charging methods etc. It's not the biggest problem in the world, eventually they will find a solution.
 
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Plenty of big/noticeable upgrades Apple can still introduce in the coming years...

- Genuine 2 day battery life on a single full charge
- A flip iPhone (as someone who loves smaller phones and coming from a 13 mini I can't wait for this)
- Completely port free design reliant on 100% wireless charging/bluetooth headphones
- Completely notch/pinhole free design (14 rumoured to have pinhole so still not full screen)
- Under screen touch id
- Always on display

That's just maybe over the next 3 years.

Agreed. I'm not that enticed by a flip phone but realise that many other people are so it definitely deserves a place on the list and who knows, if/when I see one in real life I might well find myself changing my mind and joining the I-want-one camp. It would be nice to have the chance to find out.

A few other items that could be added to the list, not necessarily in the next 3 years, are...

- Far field wireless charging. That would be something I would value if/when it becomes a reality.

- Lossless wireless audio. Apple seems so obsessed with camera quality but virtually ignores audio quality. If it wants to position its devices as premium in all areas the way it totally ignores audio quality any better than basic AAC infuriates me. Apple might actually have the pieces already to do something here. It has it's own Airpod range with custom Apple chips in and iPhone has ultra wideband (UWB). Most discussion of UWB focuses on location detection, very low data rate and very low power, but it can also scale to higher bandwidths. Bluetooth tops out at 2Mbps I think. UWB can do 675Mbps although admittedly it is probably definitely not low power at that point but surely UWB could do 2 or 3 times better than Bluetooth and still stay very low power? Yes, it would almost certainly end up being a proprietary Apple protocol, previous attempts to create a Personal Area Network standard using UWB failed, as I understand it due to inability to reach agreement on the specification, but Apple has never been shy of implementing proprietary standards. The ability to have earbuds and over-ears that I could stream lossless wireless to would be something I would really value even if it kept me locked into Apple stuff at least initially.

- More whacky, how about stereo rear cameras set at some sort of average human pupil distance so that virtual reality stuff could be recorded or you could even connect a friend via a next gen Facetime such that your friend (or friends) sitting at home or wherever could put on their Apple VR glasses and see in 3D exactly what you seeing or, if recording, you could replay the VR experience later. The same stereoscopic camera setup could also be extended to a front camera for immersive video calls. Of course once you get into that stuff then integrating the cameras into a wearable would also be possible but maybe not everyone out and about would want to be wearing Apple glasses so having the stereo camera capability in the phone might be of value.

- And definitely yes to the other stuff particularly if Apple could get a jump start on some new battery tech with significantly better energy density characteristics such that it could sail past the "genuine 2 day battery life" mark and get to multiple days or even a week on a single charge. For my use pattern I already get genuine 2 day battery life on a single charge but I'm greedy and look forward to the day when I might be able to go away on a long 4-day weekend with no need to worry about packing a charger.
 
There isn't much left for iPhone to improve after 13. These can happen:

-faster cpu but no one can feel the different
-on screen touch I'd
-change the look of the phone again
-more color
-3x zoom becomes 4x
-little bit bigger size sensors but not much since iphone cannot be so thick. 13 sensor size become so big that iphone cannot get any thicker than this in future.
-more not so useful software stuff like cinema mode video
-they will claim having even better camera AI but 13 camera AI is already very mature after few generation improvement.

All of these are not that useful, I can keep using old iphone and will switch to cheap 13 years later no problem, 13 will be the last generation with big hardware upgrade like real bigger sensor and 120hz refresh rate monitor.
Just look at the entirety of android and you can see other ideas. Sensor shift photos where they take multiple photos while shifting the sensor then merging them for one dramatically huge one is a start.

Solid state batteries, all screen, foldable, sat com ability, rugged versions, biometrics, better hardware encryption, passport and drivers license integration, near field uses, medical data (heat rate and anything else), thermal sensors, Bluetooth 6.0, usb c, higher refresh rates on all models, lighter phones, radio transmitting (garage door openers, etc), integration with cars so no keys, better photo sensors, telescoping sensors, and a ton more.
 
Some room for improvement:

- 2-3 day battery life
- Titanium or Magnesium body instead of stainless steel for reduced weight
- Faster processor
- Thermometer
- Periscope zoom
- Remove notch completely
- Increase base storage to 256 GB
- Always on screen
- Faster wireless charging
 
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There isn't much left for iPhone to improve after 13. These can happen:

-faster cpu but no one can feel the different
-on screen touch I'd
-change the look of the phone again
-more color
-3x zoom becomes 4x
-little bit bigger size sensors but not much since iphone cannot be so thick. 13 sensor size become so big that iphone cannot get any thicker than this in future.
-more not so useful software stuff like cinema mode video
-they will claim having even better camera AI but 13 camera AI is already very mature after few generation improvement.

All of these are not that useful, I can keep using old iphone and will switch to cheap 13 years later no problem, 13 will be the last generation with big hardware upgrade like real bigger sensor and 120hz refresh rate monitor.
There will be something innovative, just wait and see…
 
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No, it doesn’t. And they already have patents for making camera bump thinner!
I can’t wait. I really hate the bump on my 13 Pro.

I love the camera bump tbh. There’s something about it that just really looks pleasing from a design aesthetic. I think 11 pro and onwards the back design of the iPhone has been its best (with the 7/8 plus being a runner up).
 
Camera bump has to be that big for big sensor
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure the sensor size has absolutely nothing to do with camera bump thickness, as the OP stated in his original post.

The lenses are what make the camera bump thicker. The sensor size only affects the width/height of the bump, not the depth.
 
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I love the camera bump tbh. There’s something about it that just really looks pleasing from a design aesthetic. I think 11 pro and onwards the back design of the iPhone has been its best (with the 7/8 plus being a runner up).
I really don’t understand how could anyone like the camera bump to be honest.
So if iPhone 14 Pro / 15 Pro will no longer have the bump, will you get the non-pro 14 / non-pro 15 just to have the bump? Do you love the bump this much?
 
I really don’t understand how could anyone like the camera bump to be honest.
So if iPhone 14 Pro / 15 Pro will no longer have the bump, will you get the non-pro 14 / non-pro 15 just to have the bump? Do you love the bump this much?

No it definitely wouldn’t be a deciding factor—similar to how I got an X even though I liked the rear design of 8 plus more.
But it definitely would be a sad departure. I think I’ll probably hang on to the 13 pro until at least 2023, and then just upgrade to whatever pro model they have that year (15?).
 
At a certain point they should stop worrying about making the battery last longer but making it lighter.
 
Moto Razr gen 3 to Moto Razr gen XX will have almost no real practical upgrade

There isn't much left for Razr to improve after gen 3. These can happen:

-faster cpu but no one can feel the different
-change the look of the phone again
-more color
-higher megapixel count
-nicer feeling buttons
-brighter screen
-smoother hinge
-little bit bigger size sensors but not much since razr cannot be so thick. gen 3 sensor size become so big that razr cannot get any thicker than this in future.
-more not so useful software stuff
-they will claim having even better camera but gen 3 camera is already very mature after few generation improvement.

All of these are not that useful, I can keep using old razr and will switch to cheap gen 3 years later no problem, gen 3 will be the last generation with big hardware upgrade like real bigger sensor and 120hz refresh rate monitor.
 
Moto Razr gen 3 to Moto Razr gen XX will have almost no real practical upgrade

^ The point in my reply is that your statement is only true if you're refusing to acknowledge the invention of brand new technologies.
 
just iPhone 14 to iPhone 99? So the next huge upgrade will start with the 3-digit model?

that's great news! I'll start saving money now so I can buy iPhone 100!

(due to inflation, it will probably cost around $52,000 for the 500TB model? it will be 100% built by robots who are required by law to receive minimum wage of $1,000 per hour and 25 paid time-off days per month)
 
just iPhone 14 to iPhone 99? So the next huge upgrade will start with the 3-digit model?

that's great news! I'll start saving money now so I can buy iPhone 100!

(due to inflation, it will probably cost around $52,000 for the 500TB model? it will be 100% built by robots who are required by law to receive minimum wage of $1,000 per hour and 25 paid time-off days per month)

How can that be a true statement when price is actually going down?
 
There isn't much left for iPhone to improve after 13. These can happen:

-faster cpu but no one can feel the different
-on screen touch I'd
-change the look of the phone again
-more color
-3x zoom becomes 4x
-little bit bigger size sensors but not much since iphone cannot be so thick. 13 sensor size become so big that iphone cannot get any thicker than this in future.
-more not so useful software stuff like cinema mode video
-they will claim having even better camera AI but 13 camera AI is already very mature after few generation improvement.

All of these are not that useful, I can keep using old iphone and will switch to cheap 13 years later no problem, 13 will be the last generation with big hardware upgrade like real bigger sensor and 120hz refresh rate monitor.
Macrumors should just hire you - you know Apple’s roadmap so the site will get all the exclusives!

So long Prosser and Gurman articles!!
 
How on earth would this be an “upgrade,” lol
Surely not having to plug cables into your phone is a good thing? If you want to check something on your phone whilst it's charging you're restricted by the length of the cable. If it's wirelessly charged you can just pick it up off the charging plate?
 
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