Or, they'll become a cellular provider.One day in the future Apple will start charging a fee for using your iPhone to connect to your cellular provider!
Or, they'll become a cellular provider.One day in the future Apple will start charging a fee for using your iPhone to connect to your cellular provider!
yup, and I bought a 14 last year and now I bought a 15. does my old 14 stiil have sat service for the next owner ?It'll be interesting to see if they do that for us iPhone 15 users.
Great Question! And if so, for how long?yup, and I bought a 14 last year and now I bought a 15. does my old 14 stiil have sat service for the next owner ?
Unless the service is expanded beyond "emergency" use only, how are you going to sign up without access to cell service or WiFi and if you have cell service or WiFi, why would you need to sign up at that time?
Imagine having just crashed your car after sliding off into a ravine, waking up only to find your doors are wedged and you can't get out, you're dizzy and bleeding somewhere, not sure where, and you're in the middle of no where. You pickup your phone and try to connect, and you're prompted to run thru some enrollment screens asking you to confirm your card information and read something to acknowledge what, sorry hard to read because of the bleeding.. and only knowing they're supposed to hold their phone up aaaaaand they pass out. RIP. Sorry couldn't enter your billing information quickly enough.The answer is listed above: The software block would be removed by Apple, thus allowing you to sign up and access the satellite service immediately.
This is similar to when you arrive at your hotel, at the airport, or on an airplane and try to use the internet immediately after connecting to the Wifi network. Internet access is blocked (even though your laptop, phone, or iPad has the necessary hardware) until you agree to terms of service, which often involves paying.
Imagine having just crashed your car after sliding off into a ravine, waking up only to find your doors are wedged and you can't get out, you're dizzy and bleeding somewhere, not sure where, and you're in the middle of no where. You pickup your phone and try to connect, and you're prompted to run thru some enrollment screens asking you to confirm your card information and read something to acknowledge what, sorry hard to read because of the bleeding.. and only knowing they're supposed to hold their phone up aaaaaand they pass out. RIP. Sorry couldn't enter your billing information quickly enough.
You're missing this entirely. For those folks like myself that already pay the maximum amount for the highest offered iCloud/AppleCare+++ tier, it makes sense to include a life saving feature already built into the phone when it's something that may only be used once during the entire life of the phone to begin with, if that.
Just imagine the PR mess Apple will be in when someone unknowingly CAN'T use this "feature" anymore because some subscription ran out. A Sub they didn't even know they were given when they bought the Phone. I've been trying to find anything in the Apple commercials for this on YouTube but I'm not seeing any "fine print" indicating this is something temporary.
Welcome to MacRumors, where a company with significant assets is expected to give services away “unless they want people to die”.Subscription-based SOS satellite services have been a thing for years, yet when Apple does it people feel they're entitled to it being free?
I am missing what entirely? I never said Apple should charge for the service nor that the complaints about the possibility of Apple doing so are necessarily unjustified.
People seem fine with Apple giving away the service for free. The complaints are about the possibility of Apple eventually charging for this service.
Failure to plan doesn’t make Apple suddenly responsible for your loss.Imagine having just crashed your car after sliding off into a ravine, waking up only to find your doors are wedged and you can't get out, you're dizzy and bleeding somewhere, not sure where, and you're in the middle of no where. You pickup your phone and try to connect, and you're prompted to run thru some enrollment screens asking you to confirm your card information and read something to acknowledge what, sorry hard to read because of the bleeding.. and only knowing they're supposed to hold their phone up aaaaaand they pass out. RIP. Sorry couldn't enter your billing information quickly enough.
Here in Illinois where I'm at, having Car Insurance is the law. Medical Insurance gets taken out of my pay check. Insurance Companies won't let you file a Claim for something if it happens when you DON'T have insurance and are trying to sign up.. We're not talking about insurance on the phone. This is a Safety Feature that's built into the phones that will be turned off. Most folks won't even know it's something they should/could/would pay for, and again, will most likely only find this out when they've crashed their car or become stranded somewhere. That's not a "Failure to Plan". I bet folks with an iPhone 14 Pro are probably assuming this will work for them on their vacation next Summer, but will it? Will they even know they have to plan for this and sign up (given Apple provides an option to do so)?Failure to plan doesn’t make Apple suddenly responsible for your loss.
If you fail to hold insurance, either car or medical and something happens, you assume that risk. Not the insurance company for making it “time consuming” to enroll when the worst happens.
It seems to be a common trope that iPhone users somehow become babbling idiots when an argument needs to be made that a particular feature ought to be free / cheaper. When the iPhone first got Touch ID? Robbers are going to go around chopping our fingers off. When Face ID was introduced? Thieves can now magically replicate my face for the cost of a few dollars of materials gotten off amazon. When AirPods were released? They would be snatched out of users' ears or dropping onto train tracks left and right.Here in Illinois where I'm at, having Car Insurance is the law. Medical Insurance gets taken out of my pay check. Insurance Companies won't let you file a Claim for something if it happens when you DON'T have insurance and are trying to sign up.. We're not talking about insurance on the phone. This is a Safety Feature that's built into the phones that will be turned off. Most folks won't even know it's something they should/could/would pay for, and again, will most likely only find this out when they've crashed their car or become stranded somewhere. That's not a "Failure to Plan". I bet folks with an iPhone 14 Pro are probably assuming this will work for them on their vacation next Summer, but will it? Will they even know they have to plan for this and sign up (given Apple provides an option to do so)?
I don’t rely on mobile when I’m in the woods and still keep a Map in my car. In Sweden we do have very well marked trails. In US you have really famous routes like Appalachian Trail. In Sweden you can’t get such diversity of nature.Some people from Europe travel all the way to California (where I live) BECAUSE it is possible to hike for weeks in the mountains and not be in cell coverage or otherwise in contact with the rest of the world. This summer I was out for a couple of weeks without seeing cars, roads, or any kind of building. I met people from Europe, Japan, and New Zealand (and of course more who lived more locally). No one ever "gets lost" they take good paper maps.
If and when the subscription lapses, that will be on the customer to set up payment. Telling Apple to “just make it free so they don’t have to worry” is just lazy. Ideally, Apple would warn users ahead of service expiration to add a payment method so there’s no lapse in service.Here in Illinois where I'm at, having Car Insurance is the law. Medical Insurance gets taken out of my pay check. Insurance Companies won't let you file a Claim for something if it happens when you DON'T have insurance and are trying to sign up.. We're not talking about insurance on the phone. This is a Safety Feature that's built into the phones that will be turned off. Most folks won't even know it's something they should/could/would pay for, and again, will most likely only find this out when they've crashed their car or become stranded somewhere. That's not a "Failure to Plan". I bet folks with an iPhone 14 Pro are probably assuming this will work for them on their vacation next Summer, but will it? Will they even know they have to plan for this and sign up (given Apple provides an option to do so)?
This epitomizes pure profit greed over happy users and for the benefit of society at large (ppl can call SOS when they need it)
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People aren't complaining about paying for a "free service" when it's clearly been marketed as a feature of the iPhone itself, a safety feature even.. Not like a Camera feature or something. And as I noted here, I'm only ½ retracting my opinion on all of this. Considering Apple's longstanding dedication to Safety & Privacy, one would assume something like this would continue to work after an arbitrary amount of time.
Saying a built in feature meant to save lives is somehow related to "a common trope" where people "somehow become babbling idiots" is ultimately just a super crappy thing to say about anyone having to do with any topic at all. ALL of your comments should immediately be dismissed due to your apparent lack of common sense.It seems to be a common trope that iPhone users somehow become babbling idiots when an argument needs to be made that a particular feature ought to be free / cheaper.
Ummmm, no. As I noted earlier in this thread, I have NO PROBLEM paying the maximum amount for the "Everything" option. I pay way too much money every month to have Apple Fitness+ go unused. But I pay because I want the iCloud storage space along with everything else. Including this as a SAFETY FEATURE with AppleCare+ or iCloud +++ or whatever, I'd pay... Just as I continue to. Don't tell me what I'd want to pay for. This is a ridiculous thing to say. I feel bad for you that you'd assume people are that crappy.Just admit you all want the service to be keep free indefinitely because you all don’t want to pay a single cent for it
Don't even TRY to tell me or anyone else that this BUILT IN FEATURE doesn't save lives. It does. See here, here, and here for just some examples. And BOY am I glad Apple cares about things and we're not left for this to be decided by folks willing to say THIS to everyone. Help People? F U! Yeah, I'll stick with Apple on this and hope to help people rather than take your stupid response.Nobody here cares two hoots about whether some imaginary fellow ends up in a dangerous situation in some imagined future and can’t SMS for help.
Hopefully! Instead of leaving it to the fine print.. This has already proven to save lives. No reason to just NOT still help save lives, right?Ideally, Apple would warn users ahead of service expiration to add a payment method so there’s no lapse in service.
Does this feature work with a cellular Apple Watch that does not have service activated ?Same reason any unactivated cellphone can call 911. Modern society shouldn't let people die in an emergency because they couldn't call for help.
Considering the markets Apple likes I would guess that outside of the USA/Canada and Australia this service is borderline useless.Will be interesting to see how Apple will price this feature. Waiting for the service to be available in other countries too.