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There is definitely personal preference involved, for sure. I actually love the photos my iPhone 4 takes. While much lower in pixel resolution, the lighting and tone feels a lot more real to me. All this lighting/HDR/night mode trickery doesn't seem to capture... you know, reality. Just my opinion.
(PS I did shoot photos on iPhone 14 pro, 13, 11, X and many others, so I'm not just making this up.)

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100% agree. i often prefer a camera that has natural limits to its brightness and darkness sensitivity rather than the over processed look on my 13 pro.
 
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I've really tried to like the 14P camera but something seems off to me. I thought the pictures from the 13P looked better than the 14P. The 14 photos don't seem as sharp and clear, seem to be too warm by default, show a lot of noise when viewing on a larger screen and just over all don't look as good.....to me.

I have seen some gorgeous pics in the photos by 14 thread. But in taking some Christmas decoration pictures and comparing them to similar shots taken with the 13 they don't hold up as well.

I'm not sure what to do about this. I know it's mostly subjective but when I do expand the shots in photos (ie. Make them larger) they really aren't very good. Maybe I have a bad camera but I doubt Apple would agree.

If you all think I'm nuts that's fine but I typically upgrade for the camera improvements. Looks like apple took a step back, at least to me.

So any thoughts appreciated on anything I can do or try.

Thanks. a

I just got my 14 Pro a couple days ago and I am experiencing all the issues you mention. Plus the lackluster autofocus that someone else mentioned.

So far, the photos from my regular 12 look much better.
 
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I like it better than my 12 pro apart from the abysmal focus distance
 
What I hate about these threads are people posting complaints that have no substance and equate to an opinion. If you want help, post some pictures with the meta so we can see what settings were used to take it. I see a lot of reviews of cameras here on macrumors and you can tell they have no clue on how to review because we don't get a run down of the configuration that is being used to take the pics. Are they using a profile? What was the ISO? Things like that can provide valuable insight.
 
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Here are a couple of pics. Not sure how well they will show on here. The first one is from last December with the 13. The second two were just taken. While they look OK on the phone screen, if you zoom in on them using your fingers, they get very noisy and distortion is easily seen.

To be fair the the 14P, the two photos on the right were shot in much darker conditions than the 13 shot on the left. So of course it's going to be noisier.
 
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I am hsving the same thinking having 14PM for 2 months. From the beginning I do not like the photos and I think iPhone 13PM did better job and I should not sell it. Right now I am selling for few weeks the 14 PM and another one is on the way from Apple Store. Maybe I will sell it or maybe I will try the difference if the photos will be still sh*ty same.

The first day I took selfie from iPhone 14Pm at the night on subway going to bar I hate the photos, it looks very blured and too much noices. I am still thinking if it is possible that screenshield lower quality of selfies. And photos from main senzor very bad as well. Only what I like is dynamic Island, especially for Live Activities like showing Word Cup scores.
 
There is definitely personal preference involved, for sure. I actually love the photos my iPhone 4 takes. While much lower in pixel resolution, the lighting and tone feels a lot more real to me. All this lighting/HDR/night mode trickery doesn't seem to capture... you know, reality. Just my opinion.
(PS I did shoot photos on iPhone 14 pro, 13, 11, X and many others, so I'm not just making this up.)

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The iPhone 4 was my first iPhone and I still think the photos that I took with it look quite good.
 
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My iPhone 14 Pro camera works really good. Your photos look OK...are you using the 48MP setting? I use the 12MP stock setting and it looks great. The 48MP looks more dull but from what I have heard it's because it hasn't been "processed" or whatever
 
Well take in mind that a compressed jpeg is going to look bad or worse in most cases anyway, especially in low light, if there is camera shake, if the exposure is off, or too high of an ISO where noise reduction is applied more heavily. The lower the ISO used the better when shooting in jpeg. I always shoot RAW anyway, but I understand RAW isn’t for everyone. I choose it because I want the best quality from my photos. I started using a digital camera in 2001 when the Nikon D1x came out. It’s been a great journey and the iPhone 14 Pro max with the 48mp camera was a dream come true for me. So much detail in my shots. I have two iPhones, both are the 14 pro max Gold, 1TB. Both cameras are identical in resolution and quality.

I’m sorry that some of you think the camera is bad. Could it be bad technique or knowledge of the camera itself? I definitely don’t know what skill level you are all at, but I’d like to help if I can. I need a good explanation for some of the photos that have been taken and considered bad so I can try to duplicate the scenario. If there is a specific photo you folks want me to take in jpeg, then let me know. Photography is my passion and I’ve been a photographer for a long time. Here are some of my samples:

All shot in ProRAW and edited in Lightroom mobile on the iPhone.

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Well take in mind that a compressed jpeg is going to look bad or worse in most cases anyway, especially in low light, if there is camera shake, if the exposure is off, or too high of an ISO where noise reduction is applied more heavily. The lower the ISO used the better when shooting in jpeg. I always shoot RAW anyway, but I understand RAW isn’t for everyone. I choose it because I want the best quality from my photos. I started using a digital camera in 2001 when the Nikon D1x came out. It’s been a great journey and the iPhone 14 Pro max with the 48mp camera was a dream come true for me. So much detail in my shots. I have two iPhones, both are the 14 pro max Gold, 1TB. Both cameras are identical in resolution and quality.

I’m sorry that some of you think the camera is bad. Could it be bad technique or knowledge of the camera itself? I definitely don’t know what skill level you are all at, but I’d like to help if I can. I need a good explanation for some of the photos that have been taken and considered bad so I can try to duplicate the scenario. If there is a specific photo you folks want me to take in jpeg, then let me know. Photography is my passion and I’ve been a photographer for a long time. Here are some of my samples:

All shot in ProRAW and edited in Lightroom mobile on the iPhone.

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Very nice photos. I can’t use ProRaw due to space limitations.
 
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Very nice photos. I can’t use ProRaw due to space limitations.
Thanks… well you can still take advantage of the 48 megapixel resolution by using third-party apps like Halide or ProCamera. They offer 48 megapixel resolution in JPEG mode or HEIC mode. that way you’re not stuck with always getting only 12 megapixels, and the files are not large at all, 3 or 4 MB maybe and the quality is also better…
 
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Well take in mind that a compressed jpeg is going to look bad or worse in most cases anyway, especially in low light, if there is camera shake, if the exposure is off, or too high of an ISO where noise reduction is applied more heavily. The lower the ISO used the better when shooting in jpeg. I always shoot RAW anyway, but I understand RAW isn’t for everyone. I choose it because I want the best quality from my photos. I started using a digital camera in 2001 when the Nikon D1x came out. It’s been a great journey and the iPhone 14 Pro max with the 48mp camera was a dream come true for me. So much detail in my shots. I have two iPhones, both are the 14 pro max Gold, 1TB. Both cameras are identical in resolution and quality.

I’m sorry that some of you think the camera is bad. Could it be bad technique or knowledge of the camera itself? I definitely don’t know what skill level you are all at, but I’d like to help if I can. I need a good explanation for some of the photos that have been taken and considered bad so I can try to duplicate the scenario. If there is a specific photo you folks want me to take in jpeg, then let me know. Photography is my passion and I’ve been a photographer for a long time. Here are some of my samples:

All shot in ProRAW and edited in Lightroom mobile on the iPhone.

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What skill level would you call this? Taken with a Canon 1D (4MP) with an EF 400mm f/2.8L IS II USM lens. Do you find skill here? Do I need to explain myself any further?
 

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What skill level would you call this? Taken with a Canon 1D (4MP) with an EF 400mm f/2.8L IS II USM lens. Do you find skill here? Do I need to explain myself any further?
Excellent sports action shot!

I see your skill and raise you one. Nikon D810 36mp with sigma 135mm f/1.8 Art lens. Photos of the universe

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And my 20” telescope

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Nice photos. But I think you miss the point. I’m no photography noob. My iPhone 14 takes some pretty poor photos.
Well since you are a seasoned photographer, I would have thought you would get at least the 512gb iPhone to take advantage of ProRAW and the 48mp camera. If you shoot raw on your canon, the same technique should be applied to the 14 pro. Otherwise, the regular 14 plus would have been enough especially if you aren’t taking advantage of a “Pro iPhone”. The camera is just a tool. It doesn’t matter what brand, how much it cost, the Mp count, You get out of it what you put into it.
 
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Just an addendum. I purchased a 1D Mark III (10mp) on launch day. $5,000. The autofocus was awful. We kept getting firmware update after firmware update and nothing improved. There was even a service program where you’d send it to Canon. It came back with no improvements. It was ridiculous.

This caused many pro photographers to switch to Nikon.
 
Just an addendum. I purchased a 1D Mark III (10mp) on launch day. $5,000. The autofocus was awful. We kept getting firmware update after firmware update and nothing improved. There was even a service program where you’d send it to Canon. It came back with no improvements. It was ridiculous.

This caused many pro photographers to switch to Nikon.
That sucks… sorry you had to endure that issue.
 
Excellent composition. You have a great eye. I don’t personally take a lot of photos on my phone. But when I do, I expect them to be better than my XR and 12. That’s the issue.
Thanks..
I understand your point. I currently have two Sony A7 R III cameras. The odd thing is, I use my iPhone more than I use the Sony. I’ll take to Sony out on paid jobs, but everything else is taken with my iPhone. I wish I had the budget for Profoto strobes because the iPhone can sync with them for professional looking shots when using the Profoto app. I think that is really cool. So I find myself using a couple of 8x10 LED light panels for Portrait Lighting.
 
well you aren't crazy, personal preference is a real thing. And the reality is unless the lighting really is the same, its hard to compare pics a year apart, so if you aren't satisfied, keep trying. BUT I have had a camera literally degrade so that pictures weren't that great. Is that possible here? showed Apple genius, and got it replaced.

I ask because I have the 14 p max and the 13 p max before it and even the 12 pro max I just haven't noticed the problems you list. There are incremental improvements for the most part, and once can expect in specific situations one to be better than the other, but only marginally so. Not enough to make me look back.

Anyway for your perusing pleasure, three pictures from the three phones taken roughly the same time of year (summer) but 1 year apart. When I pixel peep, all three hold up.
In my eye the clarity of the IP14 is much better than the other 2.
Colours difficult to tell as the sunsets are different.
 
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I understand your point. I currently have two Sony A7 R III cameras. The odd thing is, I use my iPhone more than I use the Sony. I’ll take to Sony out on paid jobs, but everything else is taken with my iPhone. I wish I had the budget for Profoto strobes because the iPhone can sync with them for professional looking shots when using the Profoto app. I think that is really cool. So I find myself using a couple of 8x10 LED light panels for Portrait Lighting.

This sounds a bit nuts to me. Use your Sony and a couple Alien Bees or something. The Bees always served me well with a real camera.
 
There is definitely personal preference involved, for sure. I actually love the photos my iPhone 4 takes. While much lower in pixel resolution, the lighting and tone feels a lot more real to me. All this lighting/HDR/night mode trickery doesn't seem to capture... you know, reality. Just my opinion.
(PS I did shoot photos on iPhone 14 pro, 13, 11, X and many others, so I'm not just making this up.)

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yeah, I also have a preference for an older iPhone (but I do like HDR results when done right) - I prefer my 6S & SE (gen 1) HDR photos a lot more than my iP14 Pro Max photos - so often things just look off and unatural from the iP 14 Pro Max... :/
 
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