100x this. The iPhone as is does NOT have ANY zoom, just multiple FOCAL LENGTHS. It could also right now easily have different ones by a factor of 10. So annoying that TECH reporters cannot get this straight. Which brings us to the actual question: Will the periscope lens offer ACTUAL 10x zoom, or will it simply include another prime lens that just happens to be a factor of 10 on the wide angle lens?!
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iPhone 15 Pro Expected to Feature Periscope Lens With Up to 10x Optical Zoom
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for these with 12 and 13, yeah i'll be skipping the 14, i have better use for my money then to upgrade to a new phone every year for minor improvements.
This feature has a huge need for me, and really needs to release in calendar 2022, IMHO. Speed it up, Apple!
Well, tech reporters seem to think that digital zoom equals optical but that is of course nonsense, but it still sells to most people.
I checked the specs on the galaxy S21 which supposedly has a periscope lens, on Samsungs site and it does not say anything about optical zoom, so unless someone can proof me different, I will assume that it is a fixed focal length…
Hoping that Apple understands the difference (not sure) and brings optical zoom to the iPhone, that will then be an absolute game changer
Well, there’s loads of rumors on the site that are from various sources that are posted here every day. What does that matter? The point is, we’re hearing consistent rumors about the periscope lens that started back in 2020. And now here we are in 2022, so we know it’s becoming more of focal point likely this year or 2023. But I’d guess it’s not likely for fall 2022.
There are some serious challenges to implementing optical zoom on something like a phone such that I’m guessing we’d see it on a competitor’s phone before we’d see it on any Apple device. Whatever Apple makes has to be ready to be on over 100 million phones over the course of a year, and the tech that’s been deployed enough to be proven reliable is fixed focus.
Perhaps, but what Apple tends to do is to what for technology to mature and then incorporate it into their products. And folded optical systems have been around for decades (e.g., folded refractors). The mirror is the issue. If there are any optical imperfections in the mirror, then the lenses will just amplify them. My guess is that Apple has waited for the optical production process to produce mirrors and lenses of sufficient quality.
Apple will use a simple optical system and let AI/digital signal processing to sort out the rest, reconstructing from seemingly blurry optical signals what the optical scene is (e.g., see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lytro).
Apple will release when best suits marketing or financials. Not when as soon as they can.
There's no way Apple is gonna add it to the lower-priced models. 2x-3x for them is more than enough.
No, it's fixed zoom. 5x or 10x, anything in between is digital.
Most likely the iPhone's zoom will be the same, but it would be cool if they make it variable.
No such thing as a fixed "zoom". Optical zoom is a continuously variable focal length between a starting point and an ending point. If something has 5x or a 10x then, those are two prime lenses...or on the case of a smartphone those would be two different cameras. based on 5 times "X" and 10 times "X" With "X" being one of the multiple cameras.
The next upgrade for me. The 13 Pro is truly a nearly flawless device so I won’t be upgrading to the 14 Pro. The 13 Pro only needs USB-C and better zoom to be completely well rounded. TouchID in the power button or beneath the display would be pretty nice as well. I have my eyes on the possible rugged Apple Watch rumors. That would be something really intriguing.
c") Also....
Indiana Jones has asked if it is possible to include a little whip or lasso, in the upcoming iPhone 16...
Thank you.
Indiana Jones has asked if it is possible to include a little whip or lasso, in the upcoming iPhone 16...
Thank you.
Then they need to stop calling it a "zoom" it is not a zoom...as far as an "optical zoom" Digital zoom in Not the same thing! If I have a 50mm lens, a 250mm lens and a 500mm lens for my DSLR that is NOT a 5x zoom and a 10x zoom...which is the way they are trying to push it. that would be a camera with 3 primes. So , if they are just doing 3 cameras, each with it's own prime lens at a factor of 5x the 1st one and 10x of the first one.
I think the industry would first need Sony, Canon and others to get on board with stop calling it a zoom. Because, as long as the makers of “serious” phones are referencing and defining digital zoom, then that’s what it’s going to mean.
Or, at least specify the difference between "digital" and "optical" zoom
Not for telephoto lens. Apple makes sure of that by intentionally discontinuing the Pro models every year instead of keeping them at reduced prices. At any given time, if you want a brand new iPhone with telephoto from Apple, you have to spend $1000, not less.
8 years? That’s not very far out so I’m just imagining a continuance of leaning on computational imaging where the end goal is to capture a detailed light field (coined by Lytro, which I understand was a very interesting tech to Steve Jobs, later bought by Google) and then be able to quickly make sense of it post capture. They may add more and different types of capture devices to try to do better with the space and light capturing capabilities they have (like the L16 camera), but I don’t think they’ll have the opportunity to go into, say, flexible lenses in just 8 years, though that tech IS interesting.