iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Plus Reviews: 'Pro Features at a Mainstream Price'

[Le0M]

Once they move to 90/120Hz panels I'm done with pro models.

Dream on. 🤣
Not because the 120hz screen won't eventually be in regular iPhones, but because the nature of our brain is to always want more. It's never satisfied. So just don't fall at it

Take care man

 

[Abstract]

Just ask Leo Laporte

Who?

Exactly. He’s nobody. Not anymore.

So when I turned Promotion off, does it drop down to 60Hz and stay there, or does it range between 60 and 120?

Some ProMotion screens range from 10Hz to 120Hz, and some will go down to 1 Hz.

People can’t see any difference between 60Hz and 120Hz because scrolling websites like this probably means it spends most of its life at 10 Hz anyway.

I notice the 120Hz if I’m scrolling text quickly and trying to read the text (but who does that??????). It may also matter for some other uses like video (probably not….), but honestly, it isn’t a big deal to me.

Even so, there’s no excuse to not have it on a phone in 2024.

 

[Le0M]

After owning a heavy 14 Pro for the last two years, I ordered a regular 16 last week. I then read what seems to be a common sentiment about how 60Hz is terrible compared to 120Hz. I also learned that there was a toggle for Promotion in my 14 Pro's settings, so I switched if off to test the lower refresh rate. Now I understand that people's perception to refresh rates are varied, but my experience has left me wondering if the toggle actually changed anything. Every aspect of my phone use is (to me) exactly the same; no stuttering scrolling, and app and UI animations are as smooth as ever.

So when I turned Promotion off, does it drop down to 60Hz and stay there, or does it range between 60 and 120?

You have it the opposite way: if that option is turned on, the refresh rate varies between 0 and 120hz. If you turn it off, it'll definitely reach 60hz, but not higher than that.

 

[svish]

The base models are a good update to the lineup. Happy to see brighter colours this year.

 

[tomtad]

People sometimes forget that 120 Hz refresh rate on a phone is a MAJOR battery drain issue. Look at how big the batteries are on the Google Pixel 9 and Samsung Galaxy S24 models.

Besides, Apple has done a very good job with 60 Hz refresh on their display panels. I have an iPhone 12 and 60 Hz is not an issue even seeing the display close up.

Except it’s not. The Pro phones for years have got more out of there battery than the regular ones. The reason? The refresh rate varies from 120hz right down to 1hz. The regular phones are constantly on 60hz regardless of what’s on the display, and that actually uses more power.

 

[SactoGuy18]

Except it’s not. The Pro phones for years have got more out of there battery than the regular ones. The reason? The refresh rate varies from 120hz right down to 1hz. The regular phones are constantly on 60hz regardless of what’s on the display, and that actually uses more power.

Actually, the Google Pixel 9 and Samsung Galaxy S24 are heavy because Android itself is not that power efficient compared the iOS/A-series SoC combination, so they need bigger and heavier batteries even with VRR on the display. No wonder why the Galaxy S24 Ultra has a 5,000 mAh battery (a lot of high-end Huawei and Xiaomi phones sold in China also use those big batteries).

 

[Spock]

Who?

Exactly. He’s nobody. Not anymore.

What did Leo do to you?

 

[Zaft]

60hz at $800 is bad but most people won’t care anyway..

 

[SBlue1]

So 950 to 1450 Euros is a mainstream price for a phone? LOL

 

[rulymammoth]

I was with you until you mentioned overall build. The Base and Plus are built just as well as the Pros.

Maybe it's the weight that's throwing it off for me. The Plus feels like a toy in the hand, while the Pros have a little bit more heft to them. It's like holding a cheap digital watch next to a nice expensive watch.

 

[Biro]

Maybe it's the weight that's throwing it off for me. The Plus feels like a toy in the hand, while the Pros have a little bit more heft to them. It's like holding a cheap digital watch next to a nice expensive watch.

Yeah, I’d say weight… and weight distribution. The heavy camera lenses in the upper corner are a big part of that. Not as many lenses on the base and Plus.