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iPhone 16 Pro Expected to Support '5G Advanced' With Qualcomm's Snapdragon X75 Modem
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The telcos increase download speeds so they can offer higher priced higher profit data plans. Then they move people from old lower priced grandfathered plans to these new higher plans. Instant revenue and profit growth for the business.
The mobile phone business is saturated and there's very little growth so they have to think of new ways to charge for higher priced plans.
Huawei Mate 60 with Kirin 9000s.
Satellite voice calls are a couple USD per minute, but it works.
Not if France has anything to say about it. lolz
I live in a rural area (only 50 miles from the White House) and when my phone slows to a crawl I can be certain that I am in 5G mode. If I switch it to LTE Only I am back in normal operation. It really chaps my ass to see that the nearby towers are flagging 5G, but they are practically unusable. Seems to be across the board here as I am on AT&T but Verizon and TMobile users in the area report the same thing.
I thought Apple was developing their own modem, and would stop using Qualcomm.
We’re already talking about 6G when AT&T can’t even get 5G working? In general this has been such a flop. Where I live unless you’re on T-Mobile the tower upgrades to enable 5G made 4G slower and 5G is slower than LTE was before they touched anything. Alas.
LTE Advanced mentioned in the article required tower upgrades so I’m assuming a tower upgrade would be required.
That's not true. 5Guw on Verizon, using the c-band (band 77 mid range frequency) works extremely well.
You might be in a service area with a cell provider or with a phone that does not communicate with 5Guw (c-band), but normal 5G such as Verizon 5G Nationwide which is really just spectrum sharing with the 4G bands and doesn't have that much improved performance.
I yearly upgrade and I now have the iPhone 15 Pro Max and I see the better signal strength with weakened signals.
You get weakened signals with skyscrapers, subways, underground, parking garages, large conferences, and general tower congestion. The more people using the tower, the weaker the signal to the phone.
Starting from the iPhone 14 series, the phones have updated RF electronics.
I had to deal with Verizon Tier 3 technical support and they explained the later part.
Apple's modem is about 5 years behind leading edge, about 3 years behind Qualcomm.
well, QCOM has the technology for that, but might not include it because of lack of demand
I’m sure At&T will market this as 6G like they initially did with 4G
Oh No! Not another 'best ever' iPhone! It's all rather tiresome, boring and unimaginative. My iPhone 14PM will definitely be my last ever iClump.
In Europe, or at least the UK, 5G was the biggest marketing scam going. Countless people parted with their hard earned pennies on the promise of mystical, wondrous and magical things would happen if you purchased a 5G iPhone.
Errr, it's been a flop unless you live right under the nose of a 5G mast. The 5G infrastructure in the UK is woeful.
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In Europe, or at least the UK, 5G was the biggest marketing scam going. Countless people parted with their hard earned pennies on the promise of mystical, wondrous and magical things would happen if you purchased a 5G iPhone.
Errr, it's been a flop unless you live right under the nose of a 5G mast. The 5G infrastructure in the UK is woeful.
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Yay too be able to get 5GB speeds when stood right under a super mast!...
Which will be totally useless on a phone.
Where I live in rural England UK I get one provider who does 5G, max speeds I can get are around 260mbps, and their signal doesn't work well at all indoors in ground level.
The next best provider gives me 4G just about and 3G, but if I drive to my nearest town they have masts where if I am stood under them I can get 1.2GBPS.
It is crazy.
Which will be totally useless on a phone.
Where I live in rural England UK I get one provider who does 5G, max speeds I can get are around 260mbps, and their signal doesn't work well at all indoors in ground level.
The next best provider gives me 4G just about and 3G, but if I drive to my nearest town they have masts where if I am stood under them I can get 1.2GBPS.
It is crazy.
Speeds are fine, but having raw speed doesn't feel terribly game changing. LTE was pretty quick already. 5G was hyped as a "transformative technology" that would fundamentally change whole industries. (https://www.cbinsights.com/research/report/5g-technology-disrupting-industries/) Speed, latency, capacity, scalability ... All hyped as complete game changers. Again, 5G is fine, but 5G hasn't taken the world by storm the way something like AI has.
All sizzle, no steak
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Lack of demand, LOL.
Qualcomm had a press release about satellite two-way messaging in January 2023. They didn't know Huawei would beat them to the punch with satellite voice and SMS in September 2023.
Qualcomm Introduces Snapdragon Satellite, The World's First Satellite-Based Solution Capable of Supporting Two-Way Messaging for Premium Smartphones and Beyond | Qualcomm
Learn more about Snapdragon Satellite, the world's first satellite-based solution that supports two-way messaging for premium smartphones and more.
They are working on 6G, but apparently they are thinking of taking their time with that one.. because 5G has cost them so much to implement.
All I want is to choose the provider I want, have an app, esim, WiFi Calling, VOLTE, and get a half decent 5G signal with speeds around 150 to 200mbps and a decent 4G signal indoors. And be a good price, so an MVNO. And that doesn't exist, currently.
its hard to mass produce that in QC quantities, Huawei is easier to have that feature in it, because is not sold globally that muchLack of demand, LOL.
Qualcomm had a press release about satellite two-way messaging in January 2023. They didn't know Huawei would beat them to the punch with satellite voice and SMS in September 2023.
Qualcomm Introduces Snapdragon Satellite, The World's First Satellite-Based Solution Capable of Supporting Two-Way Messaging for Premium Smartphones and Beyond | Qualcomm
Learn more about Snapdragon Satellite, the world's first satellite-based solution that supports two-way messaging for premium smartphones and more.www.qualcomm.com
Probably by the end of 2024....TSMC bareley has made enough of N3 for Apple alone...QC has to make for almost entire industry
But it is a nice feature to have...like Apples satellite safe features and all of these should be globally available as soon as possible
Please let it be a complete redesign. Because I’m tired of buying the iPhone 12 Pro over and over and over and over again.
Apple's next-generation iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max will be equipped with Qualcomm's latest cellular modem, according to technology analyst Jeff Pu, enabling faster and more power efficient 5G connectivity for the devices.
In a research note this week with investment firm Haitong International Securities, Pu said the iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max will be equipped with Qualcomm's Snapdragon X75 modem. However, he expects the standard iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Plus to retain the Snapdragon X70 modem used for the entire iPhone 15 lineup. Apple has typically used the same Qualcomm modem across all models for each generation of iPhones, excluding the low-end iPhone SE, so this would be a change in strategy for the company.
Announced in February 2023, the Snapdragon X75 features improved carrier aggregation and other technology advancements for faster 5G download and upload speeds compared to the X70. The modem's combined mmWave and sub-6GHz 5G transceiver takes up 25% less circuit board space, and uses up to 20% less power, according to The Verge.
The Snapdragon X75 also supports the latest "5G Advanced" standard, which is described as "the next phase of 5G" and an "evolution towards 6G." 5G Advanced will include artificial intelligence and machine learning enhancements for improved 5G performance, and it will also expand 5G to additional types of devices and use cases.
Apple is likely to market the iPhone 16 Pro models as featuring "5G Advanced," much like the iPhone 6s gained support for "LTE Advanced" in 2015.
Apple is rumored to have been working on its own 5G modem for iPhones since 2018, but the project has reportedly faced development challenges, and the modem is not expected to be announced until 2025 or later should it ever materialize. In the meantime, Apple extended its 5G modem agreement with Qualcomm through 2026.
Apple should announce the iPhone 16 lineup in September 2024, so there is still plenty of time remaining until the devices launch.
Article Link: iPhone 16 Pro Expected to Support '5G Advanced' With Qualcomm's Snapdragon X75 Modem
Kirin 9000s is made using 7nm. Not hard to produce at all. Snapdragon X75 is 4nm. Qualcomm design team just not top notch.
i was telling about you about quantity...how many QC modems has to made for the entire industry and how many Kirin 9000s has Huawei to make?!
TSMC was just an example that as an silicon maker it barely has the manufacture capabilities to make N3 just for Apple alone
The increased resolution will allow for sharper macros. Macro mode switches to the 24mm field of view to make the subject larger and lessen your phone blocking light since it is farther away. The disadvantage is that the resolution drops to 3mp at 1x and 0.75mp at 2x. 48mp will solve that.
When I upgrade to the iPhone 16 Pro Max next year, I am just going to disable 5G in the Settings and stick to LTE. Not paying for any expensive 5G plans thats just going to eat up battery life with average performance.
