Nail on the head, friend. As daft as it sounds they make the software more efficient just so they can get away putting in a lower capacity battery!Exactly. That's what infuriates me about the "it's the software though" argument. It is true that Apple's tight coupling of software with its custom hardware allows it to get more battery life per mAh than its competitors but rather than that making me feel OK about Apple's choices it leaves me feeling more frustrated because I can't help thinking "so just imagine what sort of battery life Apple could be getting if it also maximised battery capacity".
I hope they come. I'll upgrade from my 13Pro when they finally have a Solid state battery in them. I've been wanting SS batteries for at least five year. They may finally be on the horizon now that I've seen a commercial product with oneSolid State Batteries are coming. Game changer replacing lithium ion batteries. I imagine the slim iPhone being Apple’s first with the tech.
Really? Unless you spend your life on your iPhoneWe desperately need more battery capacity
The Yoshino advertises as being solid state but having nowhere near the density to suggest it is with suggestions it could be a “semi solid state” as their is liquid or gel chemistry going on, take a look at comments on undecided with Matt Farrell youtube channel.I hope they come. I'll upgrade from my 13Pro when they finally have a Solid state battery in them. I've been wanting SS batteries for at least five year. They may finally be on the horizon now that I've seen a commercial product with one
Yoshino Solid-State Portable Power Station
on amazon. So looking forward to these becoming prolific over next 10 year. Would like for Apple to make the phones lighter while increasing iPhone life by 50%
We have been hearing that it is 2-3 years away forever now. CNBC had a good special on solid state last year, most experts are skeptical we will see it in any devices before 2028, at the earliest.Car manufacturers are targeting Solid State Batteries to be in their 2028 lineups. Not sure if that's a pipe dream or not. Smaller consumer electronics would be sooner because of their size and scalability would be greater. It's been reported that Apple has been involved in this area. Imagine charging your phone to full capacity in 2 minutes and having it last 4-5 days or greater with heavy usage.
That's about 95% of people I know who use an iPhone.Really? Unless you spend your life on your iPhone
eSIM is a nightmare. I hope Apple realizes this and brings back the physical SIM for the USA market. Carriers around the world aren't ready to go eSIM only. There are too many security risks and administrative headaches.I know iPhones outside of the US have a physical SIM slot... Maybe this is the year that goes away on all phones, perhaps allowing for a slightly larger battery design?
Maybe I'll be converted but from where I am right now this could be a bit like 5G. At least when first introduced (and still now?) 5G was more power hungry than 4G so manufacturers had to beef up battery capacities a bit (and during one iPhone cycle a lot) to try and minimise the drop in battery life. That was good for 5G users but also good for me who to this day still has his phone locked to 4G so I get overall battery life improvements due to battery expansion to cater for 5G.I feel pretty sure the main driver is the AI features, which are going to be doing a lot of background processing all the time. This is not about longer battery life, it's about more power being needed.
I'm totally fine with that - I'd happily have a 30% thicker iPhone to have a decent assistant operating totally locally.
Yeah, but is that 5 hours per day of actual use, or longer?I don’t think it’s that bad at least on the new M4, I can get two days out of it.
Very comparable to the MacBook Air in my use.
All of those numbers are based on full charge. Since Apple is now recommending charging to only 80% to prolong battery life, the changes will be almost nonexistent.
The iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max are rumored to feature bigger battery capacities compared to previous-generation models, but it looks like the smaller iPhone 16 Pro device could see the biggest improvement, according to new details.
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Chinese Weibo-based leaker Instant Digital today posted the mAh (milliampere-hours) figures for the iPhone 16 Pro (3,577 mAh) and iPhone 16 Pro Max (4,676 mAh), with only the larger model capacity lining up with previous leaked figures.
The mAh is a measure of battery capacity, or the amount of electric charge that a battery can store. The higher the mAh rating of a battery, the more charge it can hold, and the longer it can power a device. The following table shows the battery capacity comparison between the iPhone 15 Pro models and iPhone 16 Pro models.
The change in capacity of the iPhone 16 Pro over the previous Pro model shows the most marked difference, with an over 9% increase (303 mAh). Meanwhile, the iPhone 16 Pro Max, while not as dramatic as its smaller sibling, gets an over 5% increase (254 mAh). Combined with efficiency improvements, the increases should see both devices offer more sustained real-world usage on a single charge.
iPhone 15 Pros (2023) iPhone 16 Pros (2024) % Change Pro 3,274 mAh 3,577 mAh +9.25% Max 4,422 mAh 4,676 mAh +5.74%
According to one rumor, this year's iPhone 16 Pro Max will boast a 30-hour-plus battery life (compared to 29 hours for the iPhone 15 Pro Max). Not only that, the iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max are expected to use stacked battery technology for increased energy density and prolonged lifespan.
Both devices are also rumored to support 40W wired fast charging and 20W MagSafe charging. For comparison, iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Pro models are capable of up to 27W peak charging speeds with an appropriate USB-C power adapter, while official MagSafe chargers from Apple and authorized third parties can wirelessly charge the iPhone 15 models at up to 15W.
Article Link: iPhone 16 Pro Model to Get Biggest Battery Capacity Jump
So are you only allowed to read one article a day?Boring .. update the macs, new studio display, new magic mouse etc
Maybe try returning it? That's not normalMy iPhone 15 pro has the worst battery life of any iPhone I had since iPhone 12 it’s a catastrophy.
Agreed. We've already seen an even more extreme implementation of what you suggest with AMD's Ryzen processors (the mobile line at least, I don't follow desktop) where for the annual refresh from 7000 series to 8000 the CPU and GPU are identical between the two series, even identical base and turbo clock speeds, and the only difference is that the 8000 series have beefed up Neural Processing Units. (I stayed with a 7000 series for my miniPC.)This launch is all about Apple Intelligence and a big upgrade push of those who are 14 owners and older. Apple wants to see the biggest AI adaption in history. That is what they are looking to prove with this launch. The A18 and A18Pro are lucky to see a 10% increase in CPU, 25% difference GPU, and probably go with a 20-core Neural Engine. We won’t see a big difference in performance over the 15Pro Max.
I completely agree in fact, I won't be upgrading this year at all, I'm sticking with my 13 pro Max, you can run a language model from the shortcut that connects to ChatGPT, or there's some new apps that have come out one that looks very promising that allows you to run large language models on your own device, I've been using that for a week and it's working very well, I don't need Apple intelligence going through my phone spying on all my stuff or not as the case may be, no I will be sticking with my 13 pro Max thank you very much.Apple still cutting corners wherever they can. Their stingy RAM is why we’re only seeing AI in the top phones and now your £1300 iPhone still packs less battery than a £200 Android Phone.
I know the ADF will be out in force with the usual ‘it’s the software though’ excuses but it’s ok to demand better value from Apple!
Nothing really hit the ball into everyone else’s court this year with the CMF Phone. No it doesn’t have IP or NFC but the camera is actually really good and it has a 5000mah battery with a 120hz display. Its ludicrous value for £200 and crucially it looks interesting as well.
I’m not sure what their margins are but it should make every customer, Apple or otherwise demand more at their price point.
If Apple can’t find the room in their massive pockets for a 6000mah battery on their top phones and at least a 120hz display on the base models then something is terribly wrong.
A 6000mah battery with Apple’s software optimisations would give you 3+ days of battery easy and who doesn’t want that?!?
Do you have a link or search key words to find this this shortcut?you can run a language model from the shortcut that connects to ChatGPT,