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The iPhone 16 Pro gets M14? So that is how Apple is doing AI on device rather than cloud based.
 
Okay, but what use is that if my iPhone dims completely after just 5 minutes in bright sunlight? I think it would be perfectly fine with current brightness but the phone just overheats instantly. Apple fix that first, it's almost embarassing having iPhone that is immediately hot.

I have iPhone 15 Pro Max.
 
The specs don’t help much in the summer when the sun is out and the display is dimming heavily because of heat.

If the displays would actually reach even just a 1000 nits for a sustained period of time in the summer, I would be happy.
Living in Arizona, trying to use my iPhone 12 Pro outside in the summer is pointless. If you can read the display at all, the phone is overheating the second the screen goes active, throttling it to the point that it's unusable.
 
Just an FYI for people unfamiliar with display tech: The increase from 1000 nits to 1200 nits would NOT be equivalent to the display being 20% brighter. Display luminosity does not scale linear. In real life, an extra 200 nits would be more like a 5-7% difference which would be unnoticeable to most people.
 
OLEDs are now bright enough. It’s like staring into the sun.
Why do people complain about screen brightness like there isn't a brightness control? Sheesh -- too bright for you? TURN IT DOWN!
If current OLED brightness hurts your eyes, you have other issues...for me, I'd like to be able to see my screen outdoors without having to try to make out what's on the screen.
 
Where are you getting that opinion? S24 Ultra beat the Pixel 8 Pro in DXOMARK. That said, all 3 phones are all within a few points of each other and any difference is mostly indistinguishable.
How is this an opinion? S24 Ultra came out in 2024 and they said "Pixel 8 pro had the best display in 2023". Using your same source, DXOMARK, Google Pixel 8 Pro is rank 1 in display for 2023.
 
I wait til the September event and see for myself. All of these speculations can be easily misleading to the public. Like they are already talking about the iOS 19, macOS 16 and so forth, and they haven't even released the upcoming iOS 18 and the rest of the upcoming OS in the fall yet.
 
As expected, the iPhone 16 Pro brings many more hardware changes like 14 Pro. (as I was always saying 15 Pro - refinements/stop-gap)
 
The ONLY thing I care about with new display technology is that they do not use PWM (flickering). There was a time where all displays were truly flicker-free and over the past 7 years they have reversed course on that just to save a tiny bit of energy. The trade off is absolutely not worth it. I really hope this new OLED display does not use PWM. Fingers crossed.
More energy only helps for increasing the PWM frequency (which makes the flickering less visible to the eye), but it would still be PWM. PWM is needed to maintain color accuracy, because changing the amplitude tends to change the color balance on OLED.
 
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S24 Ultra came out in 2024 and they said "Pixel 8 pro had the best display in 2023".
Haha. Okay. So Pixel 8 was good when it first came out and is now a little behind. Whatever. The original poster said it was the best and I was asking him how he came to that conclusion. I didn't know if he was going off DXOMARK or GSM Arena or just a personal preference. I also didn't read all the footnotes and parentheticals closely, obviously.

That said, Pixel hardware fascinates me. I know people love the software because it is minimalist and has a lot of good AI behind the scenes, but every year there are always several articles about major issues. I read a lot of tech sites and just don't see Apple and Samsung get as much press about hardware issues. Is it just mediocre hardware given a halo effect by superior software? Or is it the really vocal minority of Pixel users in the press writing these articles? (And if the later, are they doing harm to the brand by drawing too much attention to these issues?) Do you recommend buying a Pixel 9 series phone sight-unseen on day 1? It's been a tough couple years for Pixel in the press.

 
I'm thinking of switching to iPhone for the first time in my life. I'm getting horrible headache from my work MBP screen. I'm kinda worried iPhone would also cause the same issue.
 
I'm thinking of switching to iPhone for the first time in my life. I'm getting horrible headache from my work MBP screen. I'm kinda worried iPhone would also cause the same issue.
That's an unusual screen to have that kind of issue with. Is it the LED or the miniLED version? Have you tried turning ProMotion off? It might just be the high refresh rate giving you a headache.


Which phone do you have now? It would be worth looking into what kind of screen that has if it doesn't give you the same issues as your laptop. If you are headache prone, you generally will hate most OLED phones and even a fair number of LED ones.

This article might help:
 
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More energy only helps for increasing the PWM frequency (which makes the flickering less visible to the eye), but it would still be PWM. PWM is needed to maintain color accuracy, because changing the amplitude tends to change the color balance on OLED.
Apple just needs to reproduce whatever LG does with their OLED TVs. No PWM used there. (There is one horizontal line of pixels that flashes to prevent burn-in, but that isn’t PWM.)
 
I wonder if Apple will use a special name for the new higher performance OLED display they’re using on the 16 Pro and 16 Pro Max.
 
Living in Arizona, trying to use my iPhone 12 Pro outside in the summer is pointless. If you can read the display at all, the phone is overheating the second the screen goes active, throttling it to the point that it's unusable.


I’m sorry but this is simply unacceptable. How is this even remotely possible and if it has happened, not addressed by 2024?…

Maybe you’re holding it wrong? Jesus…
 
The specs don’t help much in the summer when the sun is out and the display is dimming heavily because of heat.

If the displays would actually reach even just a 1000 nits for a sustained period of time in the summer, I would be happy.

Wow I thought my SE is just defective that it does so. Turns out it is a widespread thing

I didn't know this was a thing. Sounds like something MacRumors should investigate to see how widespread it is.
 
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If Apple really cared about the health of its customers, it would use displays without PWM in the first place. I'd happily buy their flagship phone every two years. Well, at least I saved quite a bit of money.
 
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