I agree with you I like the new look, but do you think there’s any new features that you’ll be using regularly
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Question—Have you seen the majority of posts on this board?
Many post take a negative tone and complain about anything and everything Apple does. While my post was made in jest, it doesn’t change that fact.
Can't Wait to pretty order the 17 pro max on Friday this will be a big improvement over my 16 pro max
So depressing how many whiners and complainers there are on this forum. Nothing to contribute, of course. Most of them don't even know what they are talking about, but they whine, whine, whine.
In that regard iPhone 6/6 Plus is still one of the thinnest iPhone ever. Granted camera is far more primitive but still.
I think the right response is "So what?" The Bluetooth version on the watch makes no difference to anything at all apart from your ability to complain here.
Based upon what? Come on...ya' can't drop that without an explanation. Or perhaps....
Apple is not Huawei.
Pura 80 has that kind of impressive tech in the camera with an actual movable lens. Sadly Apple does not feel the heat and will not give actual high tec. Just iterative “updates”.
It’s not that big of an improvement over the 16 PM though. 🤷♂️
Keep in mind I’m what you would call your average to more than average informed user. I’m not a developer (I have a developer account to get beta software for the “fun” of it) but I don’t code, or make any living in this industry. Playing a little is a hobby for me and always was from my IIGS days.
I do like the the new UI, I think it’s a move forward in general. I think Apple did a good job here.
I noticed a few small things that maybe I was able to do before and just didn’t know how to but can now. Like setting my camera app to turn Live Photos off and keep them off using the interface in the camera app.
The unified call log in the phone app is interesting. I’ve had to switch back to the classic view a few times to flush out VM I didn’t want but it’s something I’ll dig into.
I have little need for the live translation in my daily life. I rarely deal with non English speakers and when I have to my employer provides an interpreter as a a civil right.
I’m enjoying the CarPlay enhancements. I like the UI and the overall experience as far as speed and stability seem vastly improved.
Seeing time to charge milestones on the Home Screen when locked is useful.
The new way Safari handles tabs and open windows has taken some getting used to but is an improvement.
Yes but they market it as it the focal length was changing, it’s pure misleading advertising. When th focal length changes you also have a completely different picture, with more bokeh and more background compression. This is a crop.
It’s the same for the Air, they said in the keynote something like don’t be fool by the look of a single camera this is a dual camera, that’s bullcrap. It’s just like taking a 1x shot and cropping in post. It’s not the same as having two different cameras!
If it weren’t for 5G connectivity that got added in iPhone 12 series and if it weren’t for ProMotion that got added to iPhone 13 series, I’d still be using iPhone 11 series phones. Pretty much the only two things that made a usability difference to me leading to an upgrade.
I see absolutely no reason to upgrade if you have a 13 Pro Max today that has ProMotion and 5G.
The 17 PM is a $1300 handheld lifestyle assistant and that’s just crazy numbers to me. Also I see comparisons with 16 series, I feel like it’s just paid marketing. Compare it with 12 Pro Max (5 year old phone)! If you have a 12 Pro Max or older phone, I can see you wanting to experience ProMotion and 5G speeds if you’re on 11 or older series phones. But upgrading from a 13 Pro Max? I see no compelling reason to. Perhaps 18-19 series would be a worthy upgrade. But again to each their own.
Heck, my iPhone 6s Plus (new battery), is a perfectly capable iPod touch even today!
I see absolutely no reason to upgrade if you have a 13 Pro Max today that has ProMotion and 5G.
The 17 PM is a $1300 handheld lifestyle assistant and that’s just crazy numbers to me. Also I see comparisons with 16 series, I feel like it’s just paid marketing. Compare it with 12 Pro Max (5 year old phone)! If you have a 12 Pro Max or older phone, I can see you wanting to experience ProMotion and 5G speeds if you’re on 11 or older series phones. But upgrading from a 13 Pro Max? I see no compelling reason to. Perhaps 18-19 series would be a worthy upgrade. But again to each their own.
Heck, my iPhone 6s Plus (new battery), is a perfectly capable iPod touch even today!
Good improvements to camera especially front facing one. Brighter display is great to have. Overall a good upgrade.
I agree that it is a good upgrade.
However, by your (and Apple's) own logic:
This year's sensor is 56% larger, so 1.56 times the old sensor.
The "8x, 12 megapixel sensor" only uses one quarter of that, so 0.39 times the old sensor.
Therefore, the new "8x camera" has a 61% smaller sensor than the old 5x camera.
Also, even the 4x camera's sensor is much smaller than on the telephotos in other flagships from Samsung, Xiaomi, etc.
This is not true, but totally understandable you would think that given Apple's deliberately misleading marketing.
When they say 56% larger they are talking about area. However 4x vs 5x is talking about one side of the rectangle. Therefore, a 5x crop of the 4x sensor is not 4/5 of the sensor but 16/25 of it.
Since the new sensor is 1.56 times the old one, cropping to 5x results in exactly the same sensor area as the old 5x sensor.
As a working pro photographer, I actually hated the jump from 2.5x on my 12 Pro Max to the 5x on the 15 Pro Max. Longer isn't always better. For the kind of product and portrait work I do the most of, 5x is hard to work with indoors. I very much welcome the drop from 5x to 4x on the optical telephoto side, especially with the larger sensor and the much improved natural bokeh. Long lenses have their uses, but you dramatically reduce practicality. Balance matters.
Also, it's an incredibly widespread misnomer that the camera is cropping when using the in-between "lenses" that are native. I think Apple is a bit silly and disingenuous (but I understand having to market to a more "normie" audience) by saying these fusion cameras have multiple "lenses in one," they are using pixel binning, not cropping. They are using the entire sensor by combining smaller sub pixels into larger full pixels (4:1). Lower megapixel count, but the pixels are physically larger. You're only losing max resolution. You're actually gaining slight low-light performance and a lower noise floor.
Also, it's an incredibly widespread misnomer that the camera is cropping when using the in-between "lenses" that are native. I think Apple is a bit silly and disingenuous (but I understand having to market to a more "normie" audience) by saying these fusion cameras have multiple "lenses in one," they are using pixel binning, not cropping. They are using the entire sensor by combining smaller sub pixels into larger full pixels (4:1). Lower megapixel count, but the pixels are physically larger. You're only losing max resolution. You're actually gaining slight low-light performance and a lower noise floor.
Sorry, but it's cropping. There's literally nothing else it can do other than cropping.
If you take a 12 megapixel 4x photo and crop down to the middle 25% and you compare that to a 12 megapixel 8x photo then yes, the 8x photo will look better, because there's a huge resolution difference.
However, if you change the settings to take 48 megapixel photos and do the same then the difference will be much less. There will still be some difference, I'm sure, because Apple are surely doing software trickery to make the 8x photo look better than a dumb crop. But this has nothing to do with the hardware, and could be replicated in external software after the fact.
Haven’t you tried out the Genmoji right now? It’s an awesome feature, we’re very proud of it 😆
No, honestly. Curious what we will get with (most likely) iOS 26.4.
If they really can fulfill what they showed on WWDC 24 it would be a pretty amazing assistant on the phone but I’m doubtful that they can achieve this. You need a permanent tracking in nearly all apps to let the AI know what you did on all these messenger, mail programs and whatever.
Huge demand on battery also.
Reality: more isn’t always for the better
Marketing and people without deep knowledge: higher number = better