Rumor has it that the 17 Pro Max has a Super Utra Wide Camera+:
There are even some leaked selfie shots:
There are even some leaked selfie shots:
Yep, this is the real reason for this upgrade: better spatial videos for the Vision Pro. I'm surprised the article didn't mention this. It's so obvious.Yea I think you're right that the marketing focus will be on spatial video. Really hope this focus doesn't take away from just giving us the best camera sensors possible.
I would love them to have the same sensor but the cost would be about $500 more expensive. There is a big difference in cost from the large 48 sensor of the main sensor to the other sensors on the phone. I willing to bet the ultra wide will get the iPhone 15 (not Pro) 48MP sensor. It is slightly smaller and less expensive than the 48MP sensor on the 15 Pro.
I'm still rocking my 5DMKII and L glass from 2008 if I want 'good' shots.no amount of 48 MP sensors can change the fact that their CCD and lenses are tiny comparing to a proper DLSR. Need great lighting to take good photos. Anything dimmer? It just got much worse.
The one time I saw a blurry mess of a photo taken by iPhone 12 Pro Max, I knew what iPhone camera was truly capable of. Another 48 MP sensor won't dramatically improve mid-to-low-light performance anyhow.
That’s what multiple rumours are pointing at, yeahAll three rear cameras should use the same 48 MP sensor.
Just because the shot requires using the wide or telephoto doesn’t mean the photo should have to be taken using an inferior 12 MP sensor.
Obviously the iPhone is now so mature adding new features each year gets harder and harder, probably why they are dragging this out. Wide to get 48MP this year and then the telephoto to also get 48MP for the iPhone 17?
true for still photography cameras, with interchangeable lenses. But smartphones redefine that space as the lenses cannot reach the quality of dedicated cameras, so they are going another way to appeal all those who don't want dedicated cameras (for whatever reason) ... keep in mind, the best camera is the one that you have with you ...More MP doesn't mean better light capability. It's almost like no one understands photography anymore. It would have been better had they gone with a 24 MP sensor the same size as the 48 with bigger pixels. That would have garnered better low light capability. That and a better f/ stop.
But noooo no one thinks outside of MOAR MERGAPERXALS....
Company uses marketing and want to earn money. Furthermore you are forced to buy a new one every single year.Tim Cook’s Apple at its finest… drip feeding tiny improvements every year to have something to talk about
Time to retire couldn’t come faster for him
It’s possible the image quality there is already limited by the optics. Among the (now nearly extinct) point-and-shoot cameras, periscope lens arrangements were often found to be inferior to telescoping ones.The telephoto camera also needs a better sensor, especially on the 5x. I don't want to say the photos are bad, but they're different... from good.
I'd be willing to bet the biggest selling point of this will be Spatial Videos in 4K resolution, and almost no one is going to care. But an upgrade to the Ultra Wide photos is a bonus, so I won't complain.
Come on! Everyone knows Apple does this on purpose.I know, right? Why don’t they simply reinvent the iPhone every single year and give us something totally exciting that we’ve never seen before?
The sensor size (or pixel count) is rather unimportant. The quantum efficiency (probability of a photon creating a charge carrier pair) does not vary significantly between sensors. The important thing is the number of photons striking the sensor.Yea I think as someone else said in the comments, upgrading the ultra wide is more about 4K spatial video recording than anything else. They will need to market it hard to try and give people a reason to buy the Vision Pro.
Remember too that 48MP doesn't mean a better image. If they still use a small sensor to keep costs down and add 48MP instead of 12MP, low light (especially true for telephoto lens) suffers greatly. If they did use the same high end 48MP sensor on the main camera for the telephoto and ultra wide, they would probably charge $1500 for it. It sucks to wait but there are reasons other than just a trickle down to give people reasons to upgrade every year; that is part of it though, I'm sure.
Being smart Alec are you? Apple was about innovation, then marketing, then money… where is innovation now? You call annual upgrade of each sensor (4 in total) innovation?Company uses marketing and want to earn money. Furthermore you are forced to buy a new one every single year.
How dare they?
Absolutely not. But where do we see substantial annual upgrades, in which sector in terms of consumer electronics?Being smart Alec are you? Apple was about innovation, then marketing, then money… where is innovation now? You call annual upgrade of each sensor (4 in total) innovation?
what about the year after that? and the next though? 🙃Still hoping to see Sony's stacked imx903 on the main sensor next year.
Not necessarrily. A 48MP image downsampled to 12MP has less noise and more detail than a native 12MP image.Actually more pixels mean even less light if the size of the sensor stays the same.
It’s possible the image quality there is already limited by the optics. Among the (now nearly extinct) point-and-shoot cameras, periscope lens arrangements were often found to be inferior to telescoping ones.