Any iPhone would suit my needs, but I'd prefer the lightest there is.Sounds like the upcoming iPhone SE 4 with A18 chip will suit your needs
Any iPhone would suit my needs, but I'd prefer the lightest there is.Sounds like the upcoming iPhone SE 4 with A18 chip will suit your needs
I wouldn't mind a thinner phone -- the photos I take don't really need a high-end camera. My current iPhone is fast enough in terms of processing speed. I don't need the fastest 5G connection as long as the signal strength is good. But I do need the battery to be at least as good as the current phones. If it's worse, it's not going to do it for me. And ProMotion is something I'd rather not give up.Who is asking for thinner Iphones?
a budget phone with a high end price... If you don't like that... Then you don't like Applenomics baby!sounds like this will be a "budget phone"
Good point. And look where the MBA is now - it's Apple's best-selling MacI’m surprised no one has compared this to the original MacBook Air.
At the time there were two Apple laptops, a MacBook and a MacBook Pro.
The MacBook started at $1099, the MacBook Pro around $2000.
Now imagine this…
The thinnest laptop on the planet…
With the price point to boot, $1799 or over $3000 if you wanted a solid state drive.
And that was for a computer with: a significantly worse processor than the MacBook or MacBook Pro
Significantly less storage than the MacBook or MacBook Pro.
Less I/O than the MacBook or MacBook Pro.
No optical Dr unlike the MacBook or MacBook Pro.
Even the $3000 version with an SSD was a significantly worse actual computer than the $1099 MacBook.
That’s what this phone sounds like.
I hate camera bumps
The Information's Wayne Ma and Qianer Liu today published an in-depth report about the "iPhone 17 Air," revealing several new details about the device.
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The report said prototypes of the device have a thickness of between 5mm and 6mm, which would make it the thinnest iPhone ever. In comparison, iPhone 16 models are 7.8mm thick and iPhone 16 Pro models are 8.25mm thick.
Due to this ultra-thin design, some design compromises are necessary.
The device currently lacks a physical SIM card tray, the report said, but the design is not yet finalized. This means the device could rely entirely on eSIM technology. In the U.S., all iPhone 14, iPhone 15, and iPhone 16 models lack a physical SIM card tray already, but all iPhones sold in other countries still have one for now.
The device is said to have only a single speaker, in the earpiece, as there is apparently not enough room for a second speaker on the bottom edge.
As previously rumored, the "iPhone 17 Air" is expected to be equipped with an Apple-designed 5G modem that is smaller and more power efficient than Qualcomm modems used in current iPhones. However, the report said that Apple's modem will lack ultra-fast mmWave 5G support, and have slower overall cellular data speeds compared to the Qualcomm modems.
Unsurprisingly, the device will also have a "smaller battery" than current iPhones, but it remains to be seen how battery life ultimately compares.
One final compromise relates to cameras. The report said the "iPhone 17 Air" currently has a "large, centered camera bump on its back" with a single camera, whereas iPhone 16 models have two to three rear cameras.
The device is said to be in early production trials at Foxconn. Apple is apparently struggling to fit an adequate battery and some other components into the ultra-thin chassis, but it still has time to overcome these challenges.
Previously-rumored features for the "iPhone 17 Air" include a 6.6-inch display, aluminum frame, A19 chip, Face ID, Dynamic Island, single 48-megapixel rear camera, 24-megapixel front camera, and 8GB of RAM for Apple Intelligence.
The device should launch in September 2025 alongside the standard iPhone 17 and iPhone 17 Pro models, with no iPhone 17 Plus expected. The report said the iPhone 17 Pro models will feature an aluminum frame, a rectangular rear camera bump, and more.
Article Link: 'iPhone 17 Air' Features Revealed in New Report: As Thin as 5mm, Single Speaker, and More
And yet these are still objective negative trade offs, unlike there being non existing in the M4 iPad. All I’m saying.If we go by this years models there wouldn’t be much loss of power. The only thing separating the standard iPhone 16 from the Pro like is a 5x camera and VRR. The chipset is more capable but nobody is really pushing it.
A 17 Air shouldn’t be any less than the standard model and therefore more than enough for most people. The M4 iPad is largely overkill for the majority of operations.
I expect it to take the Plus’s place in the iPhone lineup in terms of size and cost. But I can also see Apple trying to charge flagship prices for it.Sounds like it could be Apple’s new budget phone.
Those that were told over and over again this year to wait for the 17 instead of getting the 16. Spoiler… next year they will be told to wait for the 18.Who is this phone for?
Wait for the 20. iPhone 17 won’t even lose the pill cutout or have it become a pin hole, and if 18 does, then it will be at least 19 but more possibly 20 before we have a full-sized display without a stupid cutout.Those that were told over and over again this year to wait for the 17 instead of getting the 16. Spoiler… next year they will be told to wait for the 18.
What is the point of this device? Who is it for? Where is it expected to sit in the lineup?
Why not? It's thinner, and that is worth more to some of us than mmWave 5G. If losing that helps Apple make this phone as thin as it could be, then there is an argument for making that tradeoff.That's not the point. The point is that a new generation iPhone (iPhone 17 Air) should not be a step backwards from prior iPhones (iPhone 16, iPhone 15, iPhone 14, iPhone 13) as they all support (in the U.S. at least) mmWave 5G.
Interesting perspective, but mine is the opposite. I know lots more women than men that choose the Max-sized phones because they carry them in purses rather than pockets. Guys I know tend to want more pocketable phones, so I see this as a more masculine option.For folk who carry their phone in their back pocket.
A more feminine form factor, you might say.
The Pro Max is a chunky and masculine affair, so a more svelte Air will definitely turn a few discerning heads - those with aesthetic preferences that differ from the bulk of MacRumors forum users perhaps.