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That would be pretty awesome, they already have AirPlay to work that so guess they would just need to workout a desktop-like UI for it that works well with iPhone.
No need for airplay, iphones have usbc and bt and can already connect to external monitors, keyboards, and mice. I’d expect if something like this came out that it would use the interface they’ve been adding to ipads, the phones are perfectly capable of running it too
 
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If true this phone would suck pound for pound. The 16e is actually a pretty decent choice as a company phone if you ignore the god awful marketing.

Then again the iphone 17 probably isn't targeted at people who frequent tech sites.
 
The ONLY way this makes ANY marketing sense whatsoever is if Apple discontinues the standard iPhone 16 upon launch and REPLACES it with this model.

Otherwise, this seems like an obvious "please buy the more expensive non-Pro model!".

Apple just needs to understand that it never made sense from any sort of sales numbers to have TWO models of non-Pro iPhone (relatively few people bought the minis and relatively few bought the post-home-button Pluses). They're priced too close to the Pro and Pro Max and didn't offer enough value.

Kaiann Drance needs to just shelve that idea and return to the 3-device marketing strategy that worked during the XS/XR/XS Max and 11/11 Pro/11 Pro Max era. Leave the 16e or some other form of e to round out the low-end in favor of selling the iPhone 15 and 15 Plus that no one wants to buy right now.
 
The ONLY way this makes ANY marketing sense whatsoever is if Apple discontinues the standard iPhone 16 upon launch and REPLACES it with this model.

Otherwise, this seems like an obvious "please buy the more expensive non-Pro model!".

Apple just needs to understand that it never made sense from any sort of sales numbers to have TWO models of non-Pro iPhone (relatively few people bought the minis and relatively few bought the post-home-button Pluses). They're priced too close to the Pro and Pro Max and didn't offer enough value.

Kaiann Drance needs to just shelve that idea and return to the 3-device marketing strategy that worked during the XS/XR/XS Max and 11/11 Pro/11 Pro Max era. Leave the 16e or some other form of e to round out the low-end in favor of selling the iPhone 15 and 15 Plus that no one wants to buy right now.
You need to understand that Apple does what it thinks is best for itself, and its customers.

I suspect none of the things you’ve said Apple must understand will happen.

Apple regularly sells last year’s base model when the new one comes out.

It seems obvious the same will happen. And if tariff price increases are the norm, the iPhone 16 will stay the current price and the 17s will go up in price.
 
So it’s just the iPhone 16s ?
Makes absolutely no sense and the fact that it’s going up to 6.3 inch screen means anything you had for the 16 model now won’t fit this new model because of that .
Slight difference but same phone
iPhone cases rarely work from
One generation to the next these days
There have been a few exceptions but usually, no.

As for slight difference but same phone, if you have a 16, why would you upgrade to a 17?

The 17 will be for those with iPhone X/XR/11/12/13/14/15 who want an upgrade. This isn’t rocket science.
 
You might not know this but Apple is a for-profit company, not a chairty. I hope that clears up any confusion you might've had.
The only confusion is whether you sit down on a chairty and whether chairty begins at home around the dinner table.

/s
 
Really disappointing given how I was set on buying the vanilla iPhone 17 this year.

It's like they nerfed it for the iPhone Air. You know, the one nobody asked for.
 
Really disappointing given how I was set on buying the vanilla iPhone 17 this year.

It's like they nerfed it for the iPhone Air. You know, the one nobody asked for.
My prediction is the iPhone Air will be one of the worst selling iPhones of all time.

Quite literally nobody asked for it, and it fills no gap in the market.
 
You need to understand that Apple does what it thinks is best for itself, and its customers.

What about "marketing sense" implies a notion that ISN'T Apple doing what it thinks is best for itself and its customers?

That's literally the angle I'm coming at it with. No one is going to buy an iPhone 17 with near identical specs to an iPhone 16 that is also being sold for $100 more. Folks will pocket that extra $100.

I suspect none of the things you’ve said Apple must understand will happen.

You mean to tell me that Apple having failed to make adequate sales numbers on (a) the iPhone 12 mini, (b) the iPhone 13 mini, (c) the iPhone 14 Plus, (d) the iPhone 15 Plus, and finally (e) the iPhone 16 Plus will find itself benefiting from making the same mistake yet a sixth time? If so, I'd LOVE to hear your theory as to how that makes any sense whatsoever. Because, it otherwise looks like it's the same marketing fail happening over and over and over again. And again, by "marketing fail", I'm saying a failure on Apple's part to sell units (thereby benefiting both itself and its customers).

Apple regularly sells last year’s base model when the new one comes out.

They do. However, do notice that they never do it without a spec difference between models. Even the iPhone 14 had a 2GB bump in RAM from the iPhone 13 and a few meaningful features. Though, it was minor and you had plenty who found the iPhone 13 to be a way better bang for buck. Apple generally wants you buying the current models over the previous ones.

Apple selling an iPhone 17 with no serious benefits over the iPhone 16 will have more people saving cash and just buying the iPhone 16 instead. That's not rocket science.

It seems obvious the same will happen. And if tariff price increases are the norm, the iPhone 16 will stay the current price and the 17s will go up in price.
...And no one will pay that price because they won't be getting anything for their extra money.
 
The A 16 Bionic in the iPhone 15 and the a18 in the 16 is basically the same chip only the RAM is different
 
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The ONLY way this makes ANY marketing sense whatsoever is if Apple discontinues the standard iPhone 16 upon launch and REPLACES it with this model.

Otherwise, this seems like an obvious "please buy the more expensive non-Pro model!".

Apple just needs to understand that it never made sense from any sort of sales numbers to have TWO models of non-Pro iPhone (relatively few people bought the minis and relatively few bought the post-home-button Pluses). They're priced too close to the Pro and Pro Max and didn't offer enough value.

Kaiann Drance needs to just shelve that idea and return to the 3-device marketing strategy that worked during the XS/XR/XS Max and 11/11 Pro/11 Pro Max era. Leave the 16e or some other form of e to round out the low-end in favor of selling the iPhone 15 and 15 Plus that no one wants to buy right now.

There’s a lot more people who value form factor change than you might imagine.

The iPhone 17 rear camera design gets a big change this year.

Apple is clearly betting that alone will carry them through for the base model. In other times, Apple would have bumped it to A19 or 12GB, but tariffs.
 


The latest rumored specs for the iPhone 17 base model are underwhelming.

iphone-16-teal.jpg

In a research note with equity research firm GF Securities this month, Apple analyst Jeff Pu said that the lowest-end iPhone 17 model will be equipped with the same A18 chip that is used in the iPhone 16 base model. The chip will continue to be manufactured with TSMC's second-generation 3nm process, known as N3E, he said.

The ultra-thin iPhone 17 Air is expected to have an A19 chip, while the iPhone 17 Pro models are expected to have an A19 Pro chip. Both of those chips are expected to be manufactured with TSMC's third-generation 3nm process, known as N3P.

Pu also expects the iPhone 17 to be equipped with 8GB of RAM, matching the iPhone 16.

Last month, Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said the iPhone 17 Air and both iPhone 17 Pro models will all be equipped with an increased 12GB of RAM. He said that Apple was still deciding on 8GB or 12GB of RAM for the iPhone 17 base model at that time, and if Pu's information is accurate, the company has settled on 8GB for the device.

Overall, the base iPhone 17 is shaping up to be a minor upgrade over the equivalent iPhone 16, with both devices expected to have the same overall design. Key new features that are rumored for the iPhone 17 include a 120Hz display and a 24-megapixel front camera, compared to 60Hz and a 12-megapixel front camera on the iPhone 16.

The base iPhone 17 will also feature a slightly larger 6.3-inch display compared to the 6.1-inch iPhone 16, according to display industry expert Ross Young.

Apple is expected to unveil the entire iPhone 17 series in September.

Article Link: iPhone 17 Base Model Now Said to Feature A18 Chip and 8GB of RAM
So same phone two years in a row. Got it. 😂
 
🤷 I know plenty of people who will buy the 17 simply because 17 is a bigger number than 16. Apple knows this.
 
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