This memory security feature is absolutely awe dropping! Another reason to change the goal posts from Apple zero intelligence.
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iPhone 17 Introduces 'Groundbreaking' New Memory Security Feature
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The point is that Apple is lying.
It is not “groundbreaking”.
It is just a marketing name and copycating.
I could be wrong, but I think Androids version is more software and Apple's is hardware.
Don't get me wrong ...I'm glad to see such features, I just know it'll crack me up that this will start getting rolled out as a "must have" feature by some.
Apple is the ultimate "could sell ice to Eskimos" company.
Apple is the ultimate "could sell ice to Eskimos" company.
Nice to see this show up in commodity consumer devices.
We've been doing this in the enterprise for a decade+ now.
I hate what Oracle did to SPARC and Solaris .... may their memory be a blessing.
We've been doing this in the enterprise for a decade+ now.
I hate what Oracle did to SPARC and Solaris .... may their memory be a blessing.
I believe this requires new hardware as far as I know. All the 2025 iPhones have it.
I may be wrong, but the statements quoted by Macrumors do not suggest this.
Apple has not claimed that it is “more hardware than Android”.
Additional clarity around this from the GrapheneOS team
I am happy to see that regular developer now also has access to both MTE and PAC without disabling SIP, in Sequoia only Apple signed binaries could use return pointer authentication. The EMTE is a new feature which requires implementation on the CPU.
Both require hardware support in the ARM CPU, so both are hardware. There are revisions, and according to Apple they use features from the armv8.9, but MTE was introduced in Armv8.6 I think.
While I appreciate GrapheOS devs for their contribution to security, I feel the tone in their messages is often sour and spiteful. They should be happy that others are also investing in improved security.
😂🤣💀. Go Apple! These spyware companies deserve to be put out of business. No where in the U.S. constitution does it say we the people should make law enforcement lives easier by breaking in and spying on law abiding persons. Yea, maybe some criminals could get away, that’s the price we all pay for freedom from tyranny.
GrapheneOS users are protected because the target is so small.
It matters because it lets you know how many years is Apple behind Android.
Great to hear about this. Apple focusing on privacy and security is huge win for customers.
That's what used to be said about OSX on Macs years ago when Windows was virus riddled.GrapheneOS users are protected because the target is so small.
They're understandably bitter about putting a lot of effort into security features but being thwarted in reaching a completed and always on system first by upstream Linux and Google both not really caring about the things they care about.
Reading past posts, though, I can see they're bitter about a lot of things.
The things they're reacting to are things that just happen when you don't control the whole product. I'm sure they're hoping hoping for more support from upstream vendors, but I really don't think they're ever going to get it. Their focus doesn't just include just things Google doesn't care about, it includes things Google actively doesn't want.
Clarity from a competitor. And why, exactly, would I believe what they say?
This reads more like marketing than a technical document explaining how things work. And the fact they had to respond tells me they’re not happy Apple has added this feature. Their very existence depends on scaring users into thinking iPhones are insecure.
Not to mention all of the keys in Keychain. If you've never opened Keychain on a Mac, you have no idea how many certs and keys are linked to your Apple Account and stored in iCloud for the purposes of synchronizing data, encrypting storage, and various user/device relationships. Every saved Wi-Fi passphrase, keys for every iMessage conversation and Find My relationship are in there. Meaning, with access to those keys you could not only decrypt iMessage content, but even track someone's shared location or the location of their Find My devices that aren't shared with anyone else.
This isn't about social media and whatever public content that people generate and post that's already public knowledge. This is about the ability to extract key-encrypting keys, health data, and private data that would otherwise be assumed to be protected, and making it harder for bad actors to obtain the ability to discretely impersonate or continue spying on users in an ongoing basis using unauthorized access through the extraction of those private keys, which would be difficult for the average user to understand or detect.
100% correct. I was in a Costco Facebook group, and they talked about the Passkey for the Costco app. One person said they don't need a passcode on their phone and don't use one. I don't get people.
What the hell is going on there? Is the whole discussion just AI agents discussing with each other?? No real persons use that many bullet points so neatly formatted.
That's a really unintelligent take. It's impossible to discuss how the feature contrasts with other implementations if you can't mention other implementations.
The thread isn't about contrasting Android security with Apple's implementation of MIE. The fact that Android has some kind of implementation of this prior to Apple does not affect how an iOS user uses his or her iPhone on a daily basis. The user I replied to posted something that wasn't relevant to the subject of the thing.
I asked a germane question. You chimed in with an insult about my reply to the member in question, while calling me out for not doing something that was irrelevant to the actual subject at hand.
I stand by what I said. My post was not stupid.