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In this article's video, Dan Barbera wonders when the vapor chamber kicks in. It's always operating, since it's a passive component, and doesn't contain any of its own electronics, so it's nearly always redistributing and dissipating heat while the iPhone is powered up, starting at relatively low internal temperatures since the lower-than-atmospheric pressure inside a vapor chamber allows the water inside to not wait until it reaches 100C to evaporate, but rather starts doing this at lower temperatures like 30-45C (86F-113F), which some of the parts inside smartphones reach pretty soon after you power them up and start using them.
 
i'm exhausted already and i'm gonna look like a bad customer
I think if you can demonstrate that your phone rattles, they won't see you as a bad customer.
You should take it back because it might be something which eventually does damage- pulls out a cable, lets dirt in, crashes into another component.
 
"There is no titanium this year, because Apple discovered that it wasn't great for dissipating heat." - This made me chuckle. They didn't discover this, it's been known for a very long time (e.g. Ti thermals). I find it hard to believe Apple didn't know this. Titanium's thermal properties have been very well understood for a very long time. A high school textbook would tell you it is one of the more inferior metals (in any of its alloys) for this purpose.

Apple employs some of the world's most talented people, there's no way they didn't know. They chose it knowing this (for what reasons, likely only they can say).
I think it's because titanium has become much more expensive in the last year - something like 25% maybe more
It's in relatively short supply and it's being considered for export quotas by China who produce about 60% of the world's supply.
I've never bought the thermal story.
 
I think it's because titanium has become much more expensive in the last year - something like 25% maybe more
It's in relatively short supply and it's being considered for export quotas by China who produce about 60% of the world's supply.
I've never bought the thermal story.
They barely used any titanium on each 15/16 Pros so I wonder how much more expensive it would have been to coat the entire aluminum unibody on the 17 Pros.
 
Again, please, STOP calling the 2x (and now the 8x) "optical". They are NOT optical zoom, they are literally crops. It's literally the same thing that taking a photo and crop it, just with some extra software steps. It is NOT optical, it never was.
If you put a smaller sensor in the device all else the same, then it would be a 2x optical.

So what is the difference between a crop of a larger sensor and a smaller sensor? And why would one be optical but the other is not?
 
I've owned every iPhone since the very first one. Here's why I switched from the iPhone 16 Pro Max to the Air.

1) Weight. Feels amazing in your pocket, when holding it, etc.
2) I don't obsess over taking photos. I use the camera from time to time. The Air's camera is fine for my needs.
3) If I want to watch videos, music, I use AirPods. One speaker is ok for me.
4) I often find the size of the Pro Max a bit too big. The 6.5 in the Air seems to be a nice manageable size. Will I upgrade to the fold iPhone? Probably.
5) I don't obsess over battery. Going to work, at work, I'll put my phone on the charger. I don't carry my phone everywhere, I don't
6) Did I mention the weight?
You can rationalize every life's decision. Getting Air is no different. If it works for you that's great. No need to explain and justify.

Aesthetically Air looks the best and more premium than pro models.
 
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You can rationalize every life's decision. Getting Air is no different. If it works for you that's great. No need to explain and justify.

Aesthetically Air looks the best and more premium than pro models.
I just checked your recent activity and you also explain/justify your decisions.

But that’s what these forums are for so the only reason why you could have had that reaction would be if you dislike the Air and don’t want to see anyone like it for reason other than its looks.
 
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I played with the new iPhones at the Apple Store this morning. I am a die hard iphone 13 Mini user, but I loved the iPhone Air, the first iPhone I liked since the Mini was discontinued. The others did nothing for me. The light weight and beautiful screen of the air won me over. I plan to keep my Mini another year, but if I had to replace it, it would be the iPhone Air.

Imagine if they'd made a slightly smaller variant also!

I suspect I'd be all over it (coming from a 13 Mini).

Sadly, given the L x W dimensions, I know it's far too big for me, despite being thin.
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I just checked your recent activity and you also explain your decisions.

But that’s what these forums are for so the only reason why you could have had that reaction would be if you dislike the Air and don’t want to see anyone like it for reason other than its looks.
My decision is not motivated by hardware specs or design... it's different
 
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Agreed. I have a 13 Mini as well. There is a rising surge in Japan for used models(not surprised Japan is awesome). Hopefully there is some traction so that the idea of everyone walking around with Orange iPad Minis as phones is frowned upon.

"Phone demand for older, smaller models has surged in Japan and on the online platform operated by Belong, a subsidiary of Itochu. The reason given is that consumers are seeking smaller phones that the new iPhone 14 and new 15 does not fill.


Japanese consumers are reaching for iPhone 12 or 13 minis, which have 5.4-inch screens that are easier to use with one hand, leading to the sales volume doubling of the models during the week of the iPhone 15’s debut."


I really miss my iPhone 13 mini. It was the perfect portable phone for people who don’t rely solely on their phone for everything and have other devices. I’ve been wanting to buy a used one for years, but the prices never seemed to drop, and I couldn’t figure out why.

It’s a real shame they stopped making them. It was the only modern phone I’ve had that felt like it wasn’t even in my pocket, and it could actually fit into a shirt pocket.
 
I played with the new iPhones at the Apple Store this morning. I am a die hard iphone 13 Mini user, but I loved the iPhone Air, the first iPhone I liked since the Mini was discontinued. The others did nothing for me. The light weight and beautiful screen of the air won me over. I plan to keep my Mini another year, but if I had to replace it, it would be the iPhone Air.

I went from a Pro Max to a 12 mini, then a 13 mini, and then back to a Pro, then Pro Max, and finally the standard iPhone 16. The standard isn’t bad, but it ends up being a bit of a jack-of-all-trades. It’s not big enough to be a true ‘large' phone, but it’s also not as light or portable as the mini. The iPhone Air seems like the best next step for anyone who loved the mini.
 
I've owned every iPhone since the very first one. Here's why I switched from the iPhone 16 Pro Max to the Air.

1) Weight. Feels amazing in your pocket, when holding it, etc.
2) I don't obsess over taking photos. I use the camera from time to time. The Air's camera is fine for my needs.
3) If I want to watch videos, music, I use AirPods. One speaker is ok for me.
4) I often find the size of the Pro Max a bit too big. The 6.5 in the Air seems to be a nice manageable size. Will I upgrade to the fold iPhone? Probably.
5) I don't obsess over battery. Going to work, at work, I'll put my phone on the charger. I don't carry my phone everywhere, I don't
6) Did I mention the weight?

I had the same feeling going from a Pro Max to a Mini, and then from a Pro Max to the standard 16. If I only had one device and did everything on my phone, sure, I’d definitely go for a Pro Max, Galaxy S Ultra, or Galaxy Fold.

Today, I carry around a cellular iPad Mini, as it’s unbeatable for screen size as a daily driver. I also have an Apple cellular Watch for calls and texts. I typically leave my 16 at home. While the larger phones are great, they’re just too bulky to have in my pocket. I always end up holding them in my hand anyway.

Beyond the 5S, my favorite phone has to be the Minis. I loved how easy it was to slip in and out of my pocket. I didn’t have to take it out just to sit down or struggle to pull it out of jeans. Contrary to what some people who probably never owned one say, the battery life on my Mini was never an issue. For heavy users, it only makes sense to get the Pro Max, which has the biggest battery. I never ran out of power, even on long international flights. And the Minis were the best for travel.

Considering how ubiquitous charging is today, I haven’t feared battery life in a very long time. But again, because some people get all Dwight-ish with this stuff, and the obvious has to be stated to them, anyone who is a heavy user or lives off their smartphones should always get the largest models with the biggest batteries.
 
If you put a smaller sensor in the device all else the same, then it would be a 2x optical.

So what is the difference between a crop of a larger sensor and a smaller sensor? And why would one be optical but the other is not?
The difference is the lens system.
Lenses are not made for that focal, they are made for the original focal length.
You can crop the sensor as much as you want but you are using only the equivalent part of a lens system that was design for a different focal length. A lens system for a 100mm is different from one for a 200mm.
And yes, if you use a perfectly equivalent sensor with its own lens system (made for that focal) it will be better than the cropped version from the bigger one.

There is a reason why photography brands rarely do this and when they do it is always to be able to use a different format lens (that was made for that sensor size).

A full frame camera could have this feature to use aps-c lenses but not to just "magnify" the full frame ones.

Once you "start" from the same sensor and lens system, cropping the sensor only has a small advantage compared to just cropping a photo.
 
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i went to my local store and played with the Air and the base models for about an hour. Most of the time was spent trying hard…very very hard… to like the Air. I wanted to like it. I wanted a dang good reason to be finally convinced and move on from my 2016 SE.

I couldn’t get there.

The width is too much. I can’t reach the opposite side in a one handed hold. I’m 5’ 10” and have reasonably-sized hands; “cursed with average height”.

I dropped the phone 4 times while handling it, but the security lanyard caught it. It’s literally “too thin” now. It returns to many of the flaws of the iPhone 6 design.

The frame is now absurdly thin that it harkens back to the rounded frame of the iPhone 6 through 11, while pretending to be squared. It doesn’t even qualify as form over function. It’s a marvel of engineering, but it never should have passed DVT, or maybe a few prototypes of EVT but no further. It can’t be picked up safely.

The side button vs. volume-as-shutter is indeed mitigated (the #1 gripe of mine which is why I got the SE). The camera control button is… something. It’s also forcing an alternate grip that I don’t think is natural.

The camera control options and function were just weird. I may have found a bug because the options got stuck at one point. I compared to the base model’s camera control and this worked as expected. I was a little surprised to see the base model had more camera control options. Although, I didn’t have the spec sheet memorized between the two, so this was just a knowledge gap on my part. It was still an odd feature parity gap.

The top-to-bottom vertical weight distribution of the Air is also odd. It felt obviously top heavy. I tried to remove the restriction of the security lanyard by wrapping it around my right fingers as I held it in my left hand (my normal grip mode ever since the iPhone 3G, which was my first). I think I gave it a fair test.

The liquid glass UI is .. meh. It’s clearly just eye candy with layers of effects “because they could”. It serves no purpose; it’s a solution in search of a problem that never existed. They’re clearly just showing off. It was an odd effect in lots of little places. Maybe they’ll continue refining this in later updates until they give up and revert it in iOS 27. As it stands, the UI is more distracting than anything.

The useless UI is much too fluid and because of the nearly edge to edge display, it’s incredibly easy to hit corner icons on the display when in the camera app. No, I don’t have “fatty palms”l either. I weigh 178 lbs (80.75 kg). Some of this may have been because I was holding back the security lanyard to give me the best “free hold” test I could. I kept hitting the camera switch icon when trying out various options. That was a time when I dropped it.

The camera wart is just stupid. If they’re gonna insist on this, they need to put an opposite side offset to balance it. This is screamingly obvious and I can’t understand why these people don’t see it. It’s just plain symmetry; nothing more fancy than that. Then the device can be used face up like natural law intended. It’d be a little gooofy in landscape mode, but not bad. As it is, the thing is useless in both orientations face up. Just stupid. Plain ignorantly stupid. Clearly they didn’t ask me, so…they lose another sale.

I spent some time with the base model, too. It’s thicker so it passes the grip test for laying on a surface. Fine. It was supposed to; that was the shell design. Side button vs. volume-as-shutter was mitigated, too.
It wasn’t much better with the one handed mode. Camera wart gripe is the same. The UI issues and accidental presses weren’t as bad since the frame had more grip room. It was noticeably heavier too.

For those who are wondering, yes, I did go through the Accessibility settings to adjust the various items. I laughed and rolled my eyes at the mere presence of the “one handed keyboard” option. The mere existence of this should be a huge clue to the designers that they have failed. Oh, and for the software team, this was very buggy and inconsistent between apps. I switched between Safari and Messages and he keyboard reset to full width mode. I had to go back to Settings and reset to one hand mode. It’s not reliable enough to use.

Just for something different, played with an Apple Watch SE, too, and found a bug in under 3 minutes with the App View in List mode, opened calendar app, fiddled with the default events, went back to the main face. Then it got stuck. Pressing the crown wouldn’t return to the list view of apps. Sigh. I didn’t even try to trick it.. I just used it like a normal human would. No fancy hackery. The Apple Watch 11 section was full of other people so I couldn’t get to that.

My little test results and pennies mean nothing to Apple; I understand that. I don’t even register as a 1-atomic weight of hydrogen in their multi zillion compounds of water bucket. I get that. They don’t care what I think. But I’m not alone. MacRumors, although a minority of a minority, has comments from posters echoing many of these points and they’re growing. I’m not alone.

I had my SE on the table when playing with the Air. A guy came up and asked “wow, is that an original iPhone? That looks great.”. I let him hold it and showed how it was lighter weight than the Air. He was quite pleased and lamented the size and weight of his current Pro model. I showed that my SE lay flat face up and I can use it when face up on the table without the wart rocking it. He appreciated that. He must have forgotten iPhones were once designed intelligently (I don’t blame him; 9 years is a long time).

Apple would do well to remember their history of the best usability years when guiding toward the future. The Air in its current form is not it. Engineering marvel, yes. Practical, no.

Edit: I did realize I missed one thing. I went back to the store and picked up the Air again. I went through Accessibility settings a turned off the animations and most of the UI eye candy, increased contrast, and reduced transparency. I did this with my iPhone 6 and iOS 7 garbage. This effectively turned off all the Liquid Glass elements. This did improve the display elements. Although there was some odd skipping when scrolling text here on MR and at apple.com.

Like I said, I tried. Valiantly.
 
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They barely used any titanium on each 15/16 Pros so I wonder how much more expensive it would have been to coat the entire aluminum unibody on the 17 Pros.
The 1mm band around the perimeter of the aluminum frame of the 15/16 Pros isn’t a coating. It starts out as a separately manufactured piece, and is then bonded to the frame using solid-state diffusion bonding, which is basically heating and pressing the metals together so their atoms intermingle at the interface. It adds significant rigidity to the frame.

Titanium can be coated onto aluminum, but a standard coating will add only very minimal scratch resistance, and no structural integrity. Hard-anodized aluminum is much more scratch resistant than this, though the early scratches on the new Pros implies that maybe Apple didn’t do this. Thicker layers of titanium can be coated onto titanium for better scratch resistance than hard-anodized aluminum, but that would probably trap some heat inside the iPhone, defeating one of the reasons Apple has gone with an all-aluminum frame in the 17 Pros. It would also probably cost a lot more than hard-anodizing aluminum.
 
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I think Apple should’ve gone more extreme with the iPhone Air. I wish the display size had been smaller so it wouldn’t only be even lighter but also easier to cary. I wish they’d removed the USB-C port and made a portless phone (Apple can find a wireless solution for DFU mode). Right now the Air is lighter than the other phones, but not by much.

I loved the 2015 12” MacBook, and I think it was a more extreme version of the MacBook than the iPhone Air is in the iPhone line-up. Should’ve been more like that.

I would’ve been interested in the Air if it had been more extreme like this, and without shiny borders.
Agreed. Simply being 'thinner' and a tiny bit lighter isn't enough differentiation from it's more capable siblings. The Air either needs to be smaller and lighter or a folder.
 
You say the Air has 1x to 2x optical, but there’s only one lens/camera model. Does it have internal zooming elements like a zoom camera lens?
 
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