But but but. They went from 187g with the 15 Pro to 199g and now to 204g. I can definitely feel the difference between my 15 pro and my sister's 16 Pro and now it gains another 4g. So I can tell you that if I get a 17 Pro, I will feel the difference for sure. Even if they added just 5g every year, over time it adds up!The 16 Pro is 199 grams so its not much of a weight increase, also the 15and 16 Pros have an Aluminum frame with a thin Ti coating so its really not a case of their moving back to Aluminum.
It says the Air has a 5 core GPU, not a 6 core, so as not to overheat. And it won't have the same constant thermal performance of the Pro. But it will still probably be better than the 16 Pro was, because of the terrible material choice.So what does this say about the new Air, which has the same new A19 Pro SoC without the fancy upscale cooling system?
They have a knack for painting themselves in a corner sometimes.
The thinness is the dissipation method.So what does this say about the new Air, which has the same new A19 Pro SoC without the fancy upscale cooling system?
They have a knack for painting themselves in a corner sometimes.
Each generation was larger with more metal, glass, and a bigger and heavier battery.But but but. They went from 187g with the 15 Pro to 199g and now to 204g. I can definitely feel the difference between my 15 pro and my sister's 16 Pro and now it gains another 4g. So I can tell you that if I get a 17 Pro, I will feel the difference for sure. Even if they added just 5g every year, over time it adds up!
Tariffs didn’t affect iPhones since they are exempt. The increase on the Pros was likely to cover R&D. They completely redesigned the interior. You might notice that the standard iPhone 17 did not see a price increase because they didn’t redesign it. The Air has no comparison, so you can’t really say if it had a price increase. Technically, the iPhone Pro did not see a price increase since they doubled the storage, a move they’ve done in the past.In all honesty I expect they went Aluminum to offset the impact of the tariffs so they didn’t need to increase prices.
Lighter than my 12 ProMax which it will replace soon.It's too heavy.
Yet you and everyone else was eating it up like hotcakes when it was announced 2 years ago lolTitanium has always been an inferior material choice for a phone and this kinda confirms it. Silly marketing and yet another headline feature that has been quickly dropped. Next one will be the camera button which wasn’t even mentioned today
This is the real reason. Cut costs. Save money for THEM. Make it cheaper to make iPhone and sell it at the same price. Companies don't do things out of the kindness of their hearts. They do it for fiscal reasons.Real reason = to cut costs
we don't agree.Alu looks cheap, so we should skip..
You just don't get it. It's not just an aluminum frame. It's a solid aluminum alloy body, like a top-end professional camera, that's tougher and stronger than Titanium bezels that has been used for previous version.
Apple's iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max replace the titanium frame introduced two years ago with a new aluminum design. Here's why.
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Apple introduced titanium to the iPhone with the iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max back in 2023, with the change even becoming the device's marketing tagline. While the devices were said to be more durable, they also suffered from complaints about overheating.
The titanium frame provided excellent rigidity and durability, but aluminum is lighter and offers better heat dissipation, which Apple has prioritized alongside the introduction of the A19 Pro chip and a new vapor chamber cooling system. Aluminum's thermal conductivity is substantially higher than titanium's, helping to distribute heat away from critical components under heavy workloads.
Titanium's machining complexity, slower production speeds, and higher scrap rates may have also contributed to the decision. Titanium frames require specialized tooling and precise CNC milling, while aluminum is less expensive and easier to produce at scale.
Aluminum also has a smaller carbon footprint than titanium, especially when sourced through Apple's low-carbon smelting partnerships. Apple's ability to recycle aluminum efficiently at scale may better align with its environmental strategy, while titanium's more energy-intensive production makes it less suitable for widespread use.
The new aluminum chassis on the iPhone 17 Pro series also enables new color options, with Apple introducing a new dark blue and a vibrant orange finish. Titanium's limitations in anodization are believed to have constrained Apple's ability to offer brighter finishes in previous Pro models.
However, titanium will not disappear entirely but instead become a defining feature of the newly introduced iPhone Air, an ultra-thin model measuring 5.6mm thick. The use of titanium is likely necessary to maintain structural rigidity while achieving unprecedented thinness.
Article Link: iPhone 17 Pro Ditches Titanium, Here's Why
Tariffs didn’t affect iPhones since they are exempt. The increase on the Pros was likely to cover R&D. They completely redesigned the interior. You might notice that the standard iPhone 17 did not see a price increase because they didn’t redesign it. The Air has no comparison, so you can’t really say if it had a price increase. Technically, the iPhone Pro did not see a price increase since they doubled the storage, a move they’ve done in the past.
Of course they do it to cut costs. How do you think they’ve maintained the $999 pro level entry price for 7 years despite rampant inflation over the last four years? Every company looks for ways to scale and increase manufacturing efficiency in order to maintain prices. This happens every year, only in most years you don’t see it quite so dramatically. Keep in mind the dollar is worth a lot less than it was 7 years ago, yet Apple has maintained the prices. They do it by cost reduction every year. As material prices increase every year, Apple has to find some ways to reduce costs to offset those. While Qualcomm and TSMC and other parts vendors jack up their prices, Apple always finds ways to compensate.This is the real reason. Cut costs. Save money for THEM. Make it cheaper to make iPhone and sell it at the same price. Companies don't do things out of the kindness of their hearts. They do it for fiscal reasons.
Only one model saw a price increase, the 17 Pro. The 17 and the 17 Pro Max stayed the same. Apple did the same thing a couple years ago when they increased the price of the Pro Max models by doubling its base storage while adding $100 to its original $1099 price. IIRC, there was a redesign back then, too, though not quite as dramatic as this year’s. This year, it was the smaller Pro’s turn. 2 of the 3 returning models saw no price increase. You can technically say the Air had a price increase over the 16 Plus of $100 but they are completely different devices and aren’t really comparable.They weren’t exempt for a period of time though, and the instability was likely added to the equation too. However, this is just an assumption.