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Me too! Aluminum is ideal for its weight and its heat dissipation. Apple's move toward more "premium" materials was a misguided attempt at justifying higher prices they wanted, and it added NOTHING to the user.

Yet you have clueless people crying about losing their "premium" materials when they are only worse for the actual product.

Is the aluminum 12.9" iPad Pro somehow less premium? What about the 16" MacBook Pro? LMAO.
Exactly this.

If it wasn’t for it’s huge size nowadays, I’d consider an iPhone 17 Pro now that they are made of lighter aluminum.
 
Wow, a metal covered battery. :p Amazing.

The Chinese and Koreans are so far beyond Apple in hardware, no wonder they're behind Xiaomi, Huawei and Samsung in the biggest markets.
 
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The big news here is them actually filling the empty space of no sim tray in the US models with more battery, instead of just a plastic spacer. If true, I can’t wait to see the comparisons.
I’d really hope that is true but something tells me if they do this they’ll make the US models slightly thinner so the battery life is the same globally.

I want more battery which means Apple is almost certain to just make it a mm thinner instead. 😢
 
IDK I like the design, personally. I just hope that orange is rumor only and desert titanium isn’t going away.
 
Definitely. But to be honest I don't even care about the chip throttling a bit. It's the display dimming that's the most annoying. They advertise peak brightness at like 2,000 nits or whatever, but when you actually need it on a sunny day it dims within seconds. I don't need 2,000 nits in the dark or inside the house, it's specifically useful for sunny days outside. And that's exactly where it fails miserably.

I kind of doubt that switching the frame to aluminum will fix this behavior though.
I lived in the UK until recently and moved to US. This was never a problem in the UK but literally pull my phone out in the U.S. and it dims very quickly. Definitely need better cooling to handle that.
 
Good to see this. Heat dissipation will be good when combined with the aluminum body. Waiting to see the new iPhones!
 
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Completely disagree. While aluminum is lighter weight, it’s extremely soft compared to titanium. So, drop it without a case, major damage every time. I have seen it so many times. Since I have had the titanium iPhone, not a single ding in my frame. I have dropped it at least 50 times. Many times on concrete or hard floors. Aluminum is a much worse material for a portable phone. It’s not even close. The Air and Fold will both be made with titanium. Apple sold us titanium because it was premium for pro iPhones, now they can’t afford it or cannot source enough with the Airs and Folds next year which require more strength. Aluminum is about the cheapest metal there is…
I’d argue that the slighter softness of aluminium is not an issue compared to the most fragile part: the screen. Like, I don’t care if the back and sides are unhurt if the screen is shattered anyway.
 
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I’d argue that the slighter softness of aluminium is not an issue compared to the most fragile part: the screen. Like, I don’t care if the back and sides are unhurt if the screen is shattered anyway.
Well. From my experience, the only thing I have had are some slight abrasions to the screen because they focus on it not breaking so much that it’s less focus on scratching. Standard glass wouldn’t scratch as easily but it would break way easier. Haven’t broken my 15PM display or back and sides look great with at least 50 drops over two years. I would say the biggest factor to my drops are wearing shorts. Getting out of car or into car is a common drop time. Pockets are two small to carry Pro Max iPhones.
 
I think you got that backwards. Apple decided to move the Apple logo down, while Magsafe remains centered. This makes the Apple logo overlap with the MagSafe ring, which is why the clear cases are leaving out that portion of the ring.

The move of the Apple logo isn’t due to MagSafe. The change in the clear case design is due to the Apple logo being moved while the MagSafe ring is not being moved along with it.
Yeah, I was pretty tired when I wrote that. I don’t think the logo will move down and I think these designs have the two section differentation wrong, e.g. the bottom will not have that incredibly large border around it.

I think someone mentioned a small flourish and every person in this entire rumor racket went wild with that which seems incredibly implausible because it’s so gaudy.

I don’t think Apple is going to put the logo in a place where your hand always covers it, but you’re right it would line up with magsafe it it stays where it is I did have that backwards. I also don’t think they’d make a design decision to support the clear case or any case for that matter, so that’s a point in the other direction.

Apple does a lot wrong sometimes but their hardware design is on point, even the Vision Pro looks about as beautiful as that product could possibly look despite being a relatively poor product.

Unless this is some iPhone Ultra style workhorse I don’t think they’d ship a design like that. It’s possible that is the case, e.g. with 8k recording / 2TB etc. they’ll get people to buy something that doesn’t look stylish or sleek, and then in a year release the 20th iPhone equivalent which has a radical redesign and get those people to upgrade immediately.

The camera bump at the top is probably correct, the rest of the phone is what I’m talking about.

We’ll see. If it does happen I expect zero marketing shots of the back of the phone straight-on, instead they’ll be taken with everything at an angle.


So what are you gonna say when/if it turns out this is indeed how ugly it’ll look? 😏
I’ll say I was wrong. Anything is possible and I’m not so full of hubris as to think I’m infallible. That render is really, really ugly though and I’m already sick of seeing it which says a lot imo.
 
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Yeah, I was pretty tired when I wrote that. I don’t think the logo will move down and I think these designs have the two section differentation wrong, e.g. the bottom will not have that incredibly large border around it.

I think someone mentioned a small flourish and every person in this entire rumor racket went wild with that which seems incredibly implausible because it’s so gaudy.

I don’t think Apple is going to put the logo in a place where your hand always covers it, but you’re right it would line up with magsafe it it stays where it is I did have that backwards. I also don’t think they’d make a design decision to support the clear case or any case for that matter, so that’s a point in the other direction.

Apple does a lot wrong sometimes but their hardware design is on point, even the Vision Pro looks about as beautiful as that product could possibly look despite being a relatively poor product.

Unless this is some iPhone Ultra style workhorse I don’t think they’d ship a design like that. It’s possible that is the case, e.g. with 8k recording / 2TB etc. they’ll get people to buy something that doesn’t look stylish or sleek, and then in a year release the 20th iPhone equivalent which has a radical redesign and get those people to upgrade immediately.

The camera bump at the top is probably correct, the rest of the phone is what I’m talking about.

We’ll see. If it does happen I expect zero marketing shots of the back of the phone straight-on, instead they’ll be taken with everything at an angle.



I’ll say I was wrong. Anything is possible and I’m not so full of hubris as to think I’m infallible. That render is really, really ugly though and I’m already sick of seeing it which says a lot imo.
Have iPhone design leaks ever been wrong - especially this close to release?
 
Can I just have a slightly thicker phone than a lopsided 2/3 skinny 1/3 fat phone? The camera bump “made sense” when it was a very small area. Now you should be able to thin the bump a smidge and move anything out of the way into the other area to even it out with just a slight lens bump that’s the thickness of the case like before.
 
I’m honestly torn on this years iPhone. Currently have a 16 PM, i think this might be the first year I skip :-(
even tho I am kind of growing tired of the updates year after year, I’m not yet at the point where I don’t want to upgrade.

I hope that day never comes 😂 but we’ll see. there are still enough annual changes/upgrades that makes me not want to miss out.
 
It is not like Tim would mandate the move back to aluminum just because he can put more boxes on a ship because they weigh less right? Right?!

He thinks of the consumer right? Right?!
 
Yes, specifically on the fit and finish. I don’t think the metal shell is wrong, I do think the design on the back is. We’ll see in a few weeks!

I struggle to believe it too. Reminds me of the griswald station wagon from national lampoon's vacation.
 
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Alleged images of the iPhone 17 Pro Max's internal design have surfaced, offering a potential look inside the device before it is announced by Apple next month.

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The images were shared by the account "yeux1122" this week, in a blog post on the Korean platform Naver. The account aggregates Apple rumors and leaks, so it is likely not the original source of the images, and it is unclear if they are legitimate.

In any case, it is unlikely that these images are showing official CAD files from Apple, but they still might provide an accurate look at what is rumored.

The images show that the iPhone 17 Pro Max will apparently feature a metal-covered battery, as previously rumored. There will apparently be two versions of the battery, with the L-shaped one in the image below to be used in iPhone 17 Pro models that still have a physical SIM card tray. The battery is expected to be more rectangular in iPhone 17 Pro models that lack a physical SIM card tray, such as those sold in the United States.


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Alleged image of iPhone 17 Pro Max internals via yeux1122

The metal cover would help to dissipate heat generated by the battery. Apple already uses a metal-covered battery in the iPhone 16 Pro, but the standard iPhone 16, iPhone 16 Plus, and iPhone 16 Pro Max batteries still have black foil covers.

The batteries in the iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Plus use a type of adhesive that can be loosened with low-voltage electrical current, from a 9V battery or another power source. Another leaker known as "Majin Bu" expects the iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max batteries will also be removable in the same manner.

The images also show the iPhone 17 Pro Max with a much larger camera bump compared to previous models, as widely rumored by this point.

You can also see the position of the MagSafe system, and the charging port.

Overall, the image does not reveal anything that has not already been rumored by this point, but it does help to reinforce expectations.

Apple is expected to announce the iPhone 17 series in less than a month from now.

Article Link: iPhone 17 Pro Max's Internal Design With Metal Battery Allegedly Leaks
A) It's NOT a metal battery. It's just a metal cover.

B) What's that headline? A metal battery allegedly leaks?

Who is "writing" this stuff? AI? 😂😂😂
 
I find it interesting how much hate there is for this full-width camera bump. Everyone is absolutely entitled to their own opinions especially on aesthetic matters so I'm in no way criticising anybody who hates the rumoured new look but personally I actually prefer it to the current Pro camera bump (I have a 16 Pro Max). To my eyes the current camera bump is already really annoying and horrible but at least making it full width gives it symmetry across the vertical axis of the main body of the phone which to my eye is slightly more aesthetically pleasing than the current horrible bulge in one corner.

Based on the number of comments for and against the new look maybe I'm just going to have to accept that I'm the weird odd one out on this one!
 
I find it interesting how much hate there is for this full-width camera bump. Everyone is absolutely entitled to their own opinions especially on aesthetic matters so I'm in no way criticising anybody who hates the rumoured new look but personally I actually prefer it to the current Pro camera bump (I have a 16 Pro Max). To my eyes the current camera bump is already really annoying and horrible but at least making it full width gives it symmetry across the vertical axis of the main body of the phone which to my eye is slightly more aesthetically pleasing than the current horrible bulge in one corner.

Based on the number of comments for and against the new look maybe I'm just going to have to accept that I'm the weird odd one out on this one!
It’s the whole backside which is ugly. The Apple logo too. It’s just so not elegant.
 
It’s the whole backside which is ugly. The Apple logo too. It’s just so not elegant.
I think Apple’s usual attention to detail will fix the basic inelegance of the back. It’s not going to look exactly like these rumoured mockups.
 
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