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Aluminum scratches too easily

Please switch back to titanium next year!!
Perish the thought. Even with the miniscule amount of titainum used, both 15 Pro and 16 Pro ran super hot, got slow and killed batteries in the process.

Use titanium on base and fashion models if you must. Leave Pros to be pro and prioritize function. This is exactly why 17 Pro is the best Pro yet.
 
My 17PM battery usage:
1 hour running errands with the phone ALWAYS charging when in the car: minus 10% battery every hour at least
3 hours away and I’m always at 70% battery. Maybe 72%.

When driving with CarPlay, my Anker car charger will keep the 17PM from decreasing battery %. But battery % will either NOT increase, or only go up very slowly.

17PM will still overheat intermittently and stop charging. (Once a month-ish). Esp when playing podcasts (OverCast).

All that aside, it’s a great phone. LOVE the burnt orange + orange silicone case + Apple Watch w/ Tumeric braided solo watch.

I would suspect that charger. Not supposed to be like that. I charge mine in the car and it stays at 80% limit all the time. And/Or bad battery. That's not normal.
 
17 Pro Max best iPhone I've ever had.

Battery still 100% at approaching a year. Capable of running local LLM, which will only get better as optimizations improve. Getting every feature announced so far.

Software continues to be the limiting factor. This is the best hardware they've done in a long time, considering technology level of the era.
 
How do people feel about the cameras? Ad-wise, you would expect image quality similar to a DSLR from 10 years ago (excepting, of course, things you need very heavy telephoto lenses for. Does it live up to that expectation: like a DSLR for street use? It seems to me that most of what recent cell phones have been about are the cameras.
My 23 year old 6MP Nikon D70 with the kit lens still takes better pics than my 17PM. Especially anything over base iso. Physics always wins. The closest smartphone I’ve seen come close to DSLR quality is the X100 Ultra. That 1” sensor on a smartphone is crazy good.
 
Definitely agree on ceramic shield 2. My iPhone 15 Pro Max got some small but distracting scratches early into its life, worse than most other iPhones I've owned, but the 17 Pro Max has only the slightest of scratches that only show up in bright sunlight at just the right angle.
 
I upgraded from a 12 Pro Max to 17 Pro in January, the screen has definitely held up extremely well for sure. My 12 PM had many many small scratches and a couple deeper ones. I accidentally put my 17 Pro in the same pocket as my keys once and not a scratch. However, the back glass has several longer scratches and I have chips around the edges of the phone. My 12 Pro Max, which I dropped a couple times, never chipped enough to get through the finish and the 17 Pro already has. I’m really disappointed that it looks worse in that regard after only 7 months than my 12 Pro Max did after years.
 
Did he say he dropped his phone about 10 times? Yikes. I don't think I have dropped my 13PM 10 times since I got it back when it was released.

Still it seems like it is holding up pretty well. Though think I will see what the 18 lineup of phones looks like.
 
Perish the thought. Even with the miniscule amount of titainum used, both 15 Pro and 16 Pro ran super hot, got slow and killed batteries in the process.

Use titanium on base and fashion models if you must. Leave Pros to be pro and prioritize function. This is exactly why 17 Pro is the best Pro yet.
Can use titanium on outer frame. Like the iPhone Ultra and Air have.
 
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I’ve found battery life quite disappointing. They keep promising longer battery life every year and in my experience it stays virtually the same.
 
My experience has been similar. The glass has been fantastic, but the aluminum is dented in 3 corners. I get using aluminum for cooling, but they would have been better off using a titanium frame around the edge and aluminum on the back to try to get the best of both worlds.
I think a lot of the heat is dissipated through the aluminum frame though since a lot of back is glass. Also you'd lose unibody which may compromise some structural strength.
 
I have a 16PM now and I gotta tell ya that thing is thermally challenged. Last weekend we drove to Annapolis and I was running Waze, Apple Music, and charging the phone in an air conditioned car. It got too hot and stopped charging. This thing brings the heat and part of it is the titanium chassis. It just sucks at dissipating heat.

I’m not going to just get a 17PM at the end of the cycle. I’m gonna get an 18PM in the cherry purple or prune color, whatever it is so I can show off I got the newest thing. I also want the new camera and the maybe smaller Dynamic Island.

It’s a waste of money and that’s one reason I’m doing it. I usually re phone every year and I missed last year so I’m getting the new one this year. The heck with it.
We were just in Venice, and trying to take pictures (I have a 16PM and the wife has a 15P). Both quickly overheated just taking normal pictures, and took like 10 mins to cool down. Titanium looks nice, but the heat is a huge problem.
 
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