16e is great for the $299 I paid, unlocked. Get a case with magnets and the only real downside is slightly slower wireless charging (that most don’t use).
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iPhone 17e and iPad 12: New Features and Release Date Rumors Surface
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It took more than than 2 years from iPad 10 to iPad 11.
Why Apple will change it now? Apple Intelligence ? Google Gemini will take over anyway for a short period of time!
iPhone 17e with notch? no hell man, buying some stocks!
Why Apple will change it now? Apple Intelligence ? Google Gemini will take over anyway for a short period of time!
iPhone 17e with notch? no hell man, buying some stocks!
Well the Japanese version of the 17 series are all e-sim only, so it does not bode well for anyone expecting a sim slot version of it, even the Air in China was only e-sim, and China does not really want e-sim only phones.
Moukee
macrumors 6502
The only way I see this happening is if Android tablets make significant gains in market share. Most $200 tablets have better screens than the base iPad in many aspects, but the overall package still seems more appealing on the iPad.
Aoligei
macrumors 68000
One of the biggest criticisms for iPhone 16e was the price. iPhone 16e was simply too expensive for what it offers.
Single camera is not sufficient, no ultra-wide lens making taking pictures hard, especially if you want take any wide pictures. No ultra-wide lens also means no macro. 2x zoom is not enough.
iPhone 17e will not have 120Hz display, especially iPhone 17 just had one this year. iPhone 16e’s display is simply recycled iPhone 14 display. If the rumors is true, it will be even worse this year for the price.
If the iPhone 17e includes MagSafe, it is an improvement, and I don’t think including MagSafe alone is sufficient to justifying the price.
iPhone 16e isn’t a bad phone, it is a great phone. I am using one, that I got for cheap. It is locked to T-Mobile and I am in Canada. It is fast, battery life is good (I am using as a modern iPod Touch). But for $899 (or $600USD) Apple charges here in Canada is simply ridiculous. For the price, you could get refurbished iPhone 16 or used iPhone 16 Pro for much better experience.
Single camera is not sufficient, no ultra-wide lens making taking pictures hard, especially if you want take any wide pictures. No ultra-wide lens also means no macro. 2x zoom is not enough.
iPhone 17e will not have 120Hz display, especially iPhone 17 just had one this year. iPhone 16e’s display is simply recycled iPhone 14 display. If the rumors is true, it will be even worse this year for the price.
If the iPhone 17e includes MagSafe, it is an improvement, and I don’t think including MagSafe alone is sufficient to justifying the price.
iPhone 16e isn’t a bad phone, it is a great phone. I am using one, that I got for cheap. It is locked to T-Mobile and I am in Canada. It is fast, battery life is good (I am using as a modern iPod Touch). But for $899 (or $600USD) Apple charges here in Canada is simply ridiculous. For the price, you could get refurbished iPhone 16 or used iPhone 16 Pro for much better experience.
Compared to iPhone 17
Notch - > Dynamic Island
60Hz - > 120 Hz
Single Camera - > Dual Camera
Front Camera - > No idea on upgrade
Same Modem, Same C1X,
$599 - > $799
Doesn't seems like a bad deal for $200 less. That is assuming it also starts at 256GB.
Notch - > Dynamic Island
60Hz - > 120 Hz
Single Camera - > Dual Camera
Front Camera - > No idea on upgrade
Same Modem, Same C1X,
$599 - > $799
Doesn't seems like a bad deal for $200 less. That is assuming it also starts at 256GB.
datsdatcharlie
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Really hope not sell going well so they change their design this company disgusting every year can they announcement John Ternus for next CEO because Disney already ahead
Aoligei
macrumors 68000
It is terrible deal, if you can source iPhone 16 or iPhone 16 Pro, whether refurbished or used.
For me a notch would be a dealbreaker (as it was with the 16e). It has always been aesthetically one of the worst things Apple ever developed. I say that as someone still stuck on a 13 Mini (as there haven’t been any even slightly smaller devices).
UWB is close to being a dealbreaker too as it’s so handy with AirTags. But a notch is a definite dealbreaker, I will not get another iPhone with one. 120hz, MagSafe and cameras OTOH … meh.
You are talking about a 2nd Hand Phone compared to brand new. And iPhone 16 starts at 128GB.
Honestly, if Apple just does a minor chip spec bump and doesn't upgrade the hardware at all, I don't see the point of yearly releases for the "e" line. If one looks at the old iPhone SE or even current watch SE line, the design didn't change and both received minor spec bumps with sporadic updates over 2 or 3 years since the target market for these lines didn't really care about having the latest features.
If Apple uses 2 year old recently discontinued chassis for each release going forward, it allows them to introduce minor hardware features over time, for example:
iPhone 16e (2025) based on the iPhone 14 - First all-screen "budget" iPhone with notch OLED display.
iPhone 17e (2026) based on the iPhone 15 - Introduces dynamic island and slightly rounded edge design to the "e" line.
iPhone 18e (2027) based on the iPhone 16 - Introduces camera control button to the "e" line.
iPhone 20e (2028) based on the iPhone 17 - Introduces ProMotion and larger 6.3" display to the "e" line.
This makes the most sense to me, but hey it's Apple so you never know.
If Apple uses 2 year old recently discontinued chassis for each release going forward, it allows them to introduce minor hardware features over time, for example:
iPhone 16e (2025) based on the iPhone 14 - First all-screen "budget" iPhone with notch OLED display.
iPhone 17e (2026) based on the iPhone 15 - Introduces dynamic island and slightly rounded edge design to the "e" line.
iPhone 18e (2027) based on the iPhone 16 - Introduces camera control button to the "e" line.
iPhone 20e (2028) based on the iPhone 17 - Introduces ProMotion and larger 6.3" display to the "e" line.
This makes the most sense to me, but hey it's Apple so you never know.
Populus
macrumors 604
It makes sense that the iPhone 17e retains the same design as the 16e, including the notch. It’s not like I prefer the notch, mind you, but they need to keep the 17e well defined as an entry level device, and not to be confused with the regular iPhone 17. Otherwise, leaving just a different display with a higher refresh rate and always-on, MagSafe, and the ultrawide camera as the only differentiators… they would risk the lowest end iPhone to cannibalize sales from the main lineup.
Same goes for the base, entry level iPad gaining a laminated display. It just won’t happen, as this is the main differentiator from the regular iPad (iPad Air)
Same goes for the base, entry level iPad gaining a laminated display. It just won’t happen, as this is the main differentiator from the regular iPad (iPad Air)
Tyler O'Bannon
macrumors 65816
A true replacement? No. Price will be high vs low, and thickness will also be drastically incomparable. But the outer 5.5”ish screen is right there. So the form factor size with the exception of thickness will also be there. And, if you thought the battery life in the mini was lacking, you will not be disappointed with this one
Aoligei
macrumors 68000
Still better value than iPhone 16e. iPhone 16 is only one year old, you can get excellent conditioned iPhone 16 with good battery health for same or lower than iPhone 16e.
And camera along will better than iPhone 16e or iPhone 17e.
The thickness, weight and overall size is what made the Mini such a great phone, not just screen size.
Knightayres1
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