iPhone 18 Pro Leak: Smaller Dynamic Island, No Top-Left Camera Cutout

[DBZmusicboy01]

What a bummer 💔 I really wanted the iPhone 18 Pro Max to have an Dynamic Dot instead of the island.

 

[ppdix]

No need to have it ''corroborated'' by a ''leaker'' worse than every other of those jesters.

I had a dog called Jester in the 80's... I haven't heard that word in ages! 😛

 

[xmarcuswildx]

So 5 years of a cut out; get rid of it by now

Gotta make use of that Dynamic Island for a bit longer.

 

[The Cockney Rebel]

I actually really like the functions of the Dynamic Island.

I don’t want it to go, or be repositioned to a janky left/right hand corner.

 

[Lepton]

I’m still curious what they’ll do for the front cameras on the iPhold.

I believe it’s actually going to be a full blown iPad mini that folds. Anyway, there are supposed to be three sets of cameras. Folded, you’ve got the main cameras on the back, and a selfie camera in front. But opened, where are they going to put that third camera? Will there be a cutout on the inside screen, or a bezel?

 

[ReliableSource]

I feel vindicated for my post about this in the other thread: putting it on one side just doesn't feel like something Apple would do.

I do still wonder how they're going to handle the fold now, though. Having an off-center camera there would make sense, though my guess is they'd put it on the side (in landscape).

 

[ReliableSource]

I almost think there were certain rumors made to sus out his source

Not that they don't do this, but this was already a rumor before Prosser was posting about it. I think this was just him reiterating other people's rumors while they were in the news to get some clicks.

 

[one more]

I'd rather have a less intrusive hole while watching videos frankly, and a top-left circle is much more acceptable. That's the case when it's more useful and now it's pretty bad.

Most video players found a way of hiding it by now, by creating larger black borders on the sides to mask the DI.

 

[Zeus2018]

It's frustrating to see Apple, a company with massive resources, drag its feet on eliminating front-camera holes entirely while competitors have moved far ahead in seamless display tech.

 

[klasma]

I believe it’s actually going to be a full blown iPad mini that folds.

It can’t be both iOS and iPadOS, and due to the phone aspect it’ll be iOS. You’ll be able to switch the same app instance between the inner and outer screen, which requires both screens to run under the same OS, which will be (some variant of) iOS. Allowing both the iOS and the iPadOS version of the same app in parallel would be causing chaos.

Anyway, there are supposed to be three sets of cameras. Folded, you’ve got the main cameras on the back, and a selfie camera in front. But opened, where are they going to put that third camera? Will there be a cutout on the inside screen, or a bezel?

I’m guessing there will be a pinhole or punch hole camera on both screens. The inner screen will often be used in landscape, but the camera can’t be centered in the middle where the crease is, so it might be in a corner instead. Bezels don’t really make sense, given the leaked screen dimensions.

 

[TFrank2]

No need to have it ''corroborated'' by a ''leaker'' worse than every other of those jesters.

I always get a kick out of these articles. Until it’s a done deal and the item is released officially, it’s one persons word vs another. I think people put too much stock in one source over another. Always take it with a grain of salt even if it seems like the most legitimate outcome given what we know of Apples design aesthetic.

 

[Mrbiggestman]

I'd rather have a less intrusive hole while watching videos frankly, and a top-left circle is much more acceptable. That's the case when it's more useful and now it's pretty bad.

Yeah, no I would rather buy a phone with under display camera technology. Like I have the redmagic 11 pro so I can’t move back to the dynamic island or punch hole camera technology, its old and unfuturistic no matter how many use cases manufacturers try and make a use case for them

 

[sw1tcher]

... and debate over whether the familiar Dynamic Island will shrink, shift, or disappear entirely.

A Dynamic Island that pops out from the left but that can shink or disappear/collapse reminds me of the Control Strip from the Macintosh System 7 OS

 

[sw1tcher]

Last month, The Information reported that the front camera would be moved to the top-left corner of the display on iPhone 18 Pro models, explicitly claiming this change would eliminate the pill-shaped cutout. Instant Digital now appears to be pushing back on that interpretation.

In short, reports of a top-left hole-punch camera on the iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max now appear to be incorrect. The only visible change suggested by the leak is a smaller, centered Dynamic Island – as per some reports – enabled by relocating the IR flood illuminator outside of it and under the display.

Update: Today's leak has since been corroborated by the X account "ShrimpApplePro," which has accurately leaked some details about Apple devices in the past.

Apple feeding different people different info to find out who their leakier is.

 

[HouseLannister]

So only some of the sensor is under the glass and the dynamic island just gets a bit smaller footprint then. Same rumor we have had for... six months?

 

[TFrank2]

Apple feeding different people different info to find out who their leakier is.

Who is the leakiest leaker 😂

 

[cicalinarrot]

Yeah, no I would rather buy a phone with under display camera technology. Like I have the redmagic 11 pro so I can’t move back to the dynamic island or punch hole camera technology, its old and unfuturistic no matter how many use cases manufacturers try and make a use case for them

Having a selfie camera that takes washed out pictures because it sits behind a semi-transparent screen is not and will never be futuristic. It doesn't matter how good they make it, they'll never be as good as an unobstructed clear glass.
And I'm already kinda dissatisfied with any selfie camera. I wish they made it better by putting a massive sensor in that huge camera bump that now sits behind the island.
Apple shouldn't sacrifice photo quality, something that's part of their identity (very, very weird that redmagic did it, and I don't like most pictures taken with that array of low quality sensors) to how clean and "futuristic" the screen looks. That only affects your personal experience in the moment while the quality of pictures affects something you share, something other people see from your phone, and something that will last longer that the phone itself. For what? Not even a practical advantage, just cleaner looks.

 

[Paddle1]

So now that we're closer to release the hidden Face ID rumors are getting scaled back once again. I wouldn't be surprised if they start saying next year's "iPhone 20" will still have a cutout.

 

[tomtad]

So 5 years of a cut out; get rid of it by now

Two things. First is Apple is committed to FaceID which requires a more sensors, and therefore more difficult to place them under the display.

The second is a camera below a screen is, and always will be, worse quality than one which is cut out. And given many people value the quality of the front facing camera having a cut out camera is actually a feature many prefer.

 

[HouseLannister]

I wouldn't be surprised if they start saying next year's "iPhone 20" will still have a cutout.

It better. I've tried that 16MP under-screen camera on a RedMagic phone and it is crap. It would mean soft, blown out photos that lack fine detail. There's a reason Samsung stopped using them on the Fold 7.

My wish for iPhone 20 is a return to titanium, a more anti-reflective screen (give it a nano-etch), a SiC battery that lasts 2-3 days, and that's about it. I don't need them to reinvent the phone every year.

 

[goldmac2006]

I actually really like the functions of the Dynamic Island.

I don’t want it to go, or be repositioned to a janky left/right hand corner.

Same here. It also would do away with the proximity sensor.

 

[Zenman12]

This is what I’m betting they’re going to do. (Not that I want because I prefer a solid screen and temporary island. But what I want ≠ what I think it’ll be). It be smaller before they transition (like they did for the notch).

 

[Zenman12]

So 5 years of a cut out; get rid of it by now

The tech isn’t there. They’ll reduce it and claim it’s a feature that the Face ID is under display. That’s the Apple way.

 

[Zenman12]

Are they slimming down the bezels even more or is that a hard limit due to tech or design reasons?

 

[Zenman12]

Exactly. It‘s really amazing that most of the supply chain sourced leakers understand Apple design so poorly that they really thought we would get a butt ugly punch hole camera.

It’s amazing most people believe it, given apple’s history (the notch being slowly slimmed down first. The fact the the camera tech isn’t done. The island having UI function they wouldn’t just bail on. And Apple always wants to be different than Android). If I was a betting man, I would bet the island stays permanently but becomes a temporary thing that can disappear and appear on a solid display (you want to set a timer? The island appears and timer ticks above before closing itself out entirely).