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So it will have 3 awful new colours and a side android style hole for Face ID. Truly awful.

Good news is the side hole is due to go in 2027. But we could end up with a curved glass android display again.

No wonder they expect sales to fall next year no standard model and a terrible Pro upgrade. Everybody should keep there existing iPhones rather than these awful updates. Any reason why they are going for failed Android designs like the side hole and curved glass?

Kind of makes the Google Pixel look a great phone in 2025. I usually update yearly and the air was great but it looks like 2026 and 2027 could be the ones to skip.
 
So it will have 3 awful new colours and a side android style hole for Face ID. Truly awful.

Good news is the side hole is due to go in 2027. But we could end up with a curved glass android display again.

No wonder they expect sales to fall next year no standard model and a terrible Pro upgrade. Everybody should keep there existing iPhones rather than these awful updates. Any reason why they are going for failed Android designs like the side hole and curved glass?

Kind of makes the Google Pixel look a great phone in 2025. I usually update yearly and the air was great but it looks like 2026 and 2027 could be the ones to skip.
iPhone fold next year
 
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Not going to skip anything as a yearly upgrader. My 17 PM is already reserved for someone in my family still rocking a XS Max. He would really be mad at me if I’d skip. 😂
 
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If anything, it'll be the phone to get.

refined 17 design with hopefully better colours and stronger frame.

punch hole for more screen, C2 chip, A20 etc etc
 
The 18 Pro will be like the 15 Pro, an incremental upgrade over the previous model. I don’t think they’ll be marketing it all that much as the focus will be on the new foldable. It’ll likely just be an afterthought.
 
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So it will have 3 awful new colours and a side android style hole for Face ID. Truly awful.

Good news is the side hole is due to go in 2027. But we could end up with a curved glass android display again.

No wonder they expect sales to fall next year no standard model and a terrible Pro upgrade. Everybody should keep there existing iPhones rather than these awful updates. Any reason why they are going for failed Android designs like the side hole and curved glass?

Kind of makes the Google Pixel look a great phone in 2025. I usually update yearly and the air was great but it looks like 2026 and 2027 could be the ones to skip.
Do you believe everything you read?
 
The 18 Pro will be like the 15 Pro, an incremental upgrade over the previous model. I don’t think they’ll be marketing it all that much as the focus will be on the new foldable. It’ll likely just be an afterthought.
15Pro wasn't an especially small upgrade though. New form factor (no sharp corners), new materials for the frame, new screen shrinked bezels, different buttons... This is probably gonna be more like 15P to 16P - focus on chip and spec improvements limiting visual design changes to new color options.

EDIT: Actually 15Pro didn't have the camera button yet. So it replaced mute switch and they still added additional button with 16Pro. Also keeping in mind that 16P also has a different slightly bigger screen than 15P I struggle to fit either analogy to be honest. I doubt they are gonna improve the screen beyond minor changes not involving PPI, size or bezels, change button layout once again or change the form factor for 18P. Maybe some new process of anodization against scratches and featuring it in black color is my thinking.
 
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15Pro wasn't an especially small upgrade though. New form factor (no sharp corners), new materials for the frame, new screen shrinked bezels, different buttons... This is probably gonna be more like 15P to 16P - focus on chip and spec improvements limiting visual design changes to new color options.

EDIT: Actually 15Pro didn't have the camera button yet. So it replaced mute switch and they still added additional button with 16Pro. Also keeping in mind that 16P also has a different slightly bigger screen than 15P I struggle to fit either analogy to be honest. I doubt they are gonna improve the screen beyond minor changes not involving PPI, size or bezels, change button layout once again or change the form factor for 18P. Maybe some new process of anodization against scratches and featuring it in black color is my thinking.
Agreed. I reckon we’ll see an improved SoC, marginally better cameras and new colours. It’ll be much ado about nothing as everyone will be talking about the foldable.
 
All rumours point towards a side android camera hole I believe Android got rid of this 8 years ago.

Really does seem the year to skip especially as it’s going full screen in 2027. Even if you like the side camera it goes the year after making it very quickly out dated.

Also no standard model so I expect to hear record low iPhone sales. Fold will flop like the Vision Pro due to price and lack of demand
 
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