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Zero chance of that happening, the economic incentives are stacked against that.
I disagree. The reason some folks don't use iPhone is specifically because it doesn't support multiple profiles. Multiple profiles on iPhone would only bring more people and more money to apple.
 
To those who disagree, how does Apple care and how have they not cheapskated on RAM? They do it and have done it for years. And when any tech savvy person asks, it’s to save battery power.
Energy efficiency has to be the most stupid defense people came up with for Apple cheaping out on RAM.

I don’t believe Apple was ready for AI to come on this fast. That’s why the iPhones 15 and older don’t and will never run it even though they can run ChatGPT fine.
To be fair no iPhone (or Android device) actually runs the models behind ChatGPT, it's all cloud-based. Apple Intelligence heavily relies on running (smaller) models on-device.

How about the camera filters? They could easily have implemented that in iOS for every iPhone every made.
Funnily enough you can edit photos taken with an iPhone 16 and get all these filters with other devices running iOS 18. Tried it with an iPad Pro M1 and iPhone 12 mini. You just can't take such photos on these devices.
 
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I disagree. The reason some folks don't use iPhone is specifically because it doesn't support multiple profiles. Multiple profiles on iPhone would only bring more people and more money to apple.
In poorer countries and in families for example, iPhones would be shared much more if they were multi-user. Apple likely estimates that, together with the additional software maintenance cost for Apple, it would outweigh any added sales.
 
In poorer countries and in families for example, iPhones would be shared much more if they were multi-user. Apple likely estimates that, together with the additional software maintenance cost for Apple, it would outweigh any added sales.
Then apple should, as a company with unlimited resources, find a way to brand it / make it so it's not marketed / doesn't work for multiple people. Just make it a few separate spaces for one single user only.
 
Then apple should, as a company with unlimited resources, find a way to brand it / make it so it's not marketed / doesn't work for multiple people. Just make it a few separate spaces for one single user only.
Yes, I would like the ability to install multiples copies of the same app. However, then I would also like the option for those copies to not see the same Apple ID, so that they don’t synchronize state between them. It gets complicated when you start thinking about it.
 
Yes, I would like the ability to install multiples copies of the same app. However, then I would also like the option for those copies to not see the same Apple ID, so that they don’t synchronize state between them. It gets complicated when you start thinking about it.
So just do multiple users like stock Android has, but instead of calling it multiple users, call it "separate spaces" or something to that effect. Complete data segregation, ability to use different apple IDs, marketed as a single user feature, for one person only.
 
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I just put a new battery in my 12 mini and it acts like a brand new phone. Hopefully I can wait until 2026 to upgrade.
I put a new battery in my 13 Mini in March and its already crawling again so had to surrender and get a 16 Pro, I still prefer the mini but can't live with the battery life anymore
 
So just do multiple users like stock Android has, but instead of calling it multiple users, call it multiple profiles or second space or multiple spaces etc. Complete data segregation, marketed as a single user feature, for one person only.

If it's all about the money, then I guess they could charge people for the ability.
It’s not an easy feature, might require multiple copies of (parts of) iOS, and my guess is they think it’s not worth the trouble for the fraction of customers who would use it. And again, the possible loss of sales applies to what you outline.
 
The real issue is Android supports multitasking and Apple does not. That is a primary driver for needing larger amounts of RAM. The actual question should be: Should a mobile phone support multitasking?

Seems to me, it is sort of useless to compare RAM requirements between a single task and multitasking operating systems.
iOS really does multi-task. It’s Unix after all. But I understand your point. It’s that iOS artificially restricts tasks running in the background irrespective of the amount of RAM and other resources available.
 
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It’s not an easy feature, might require multiple copies of (parts of) iOS, and my guess is they think it’s not worth the trouble for the fraction of customers who would use it. And again, the possible loss of sales applies to what you outline.
How do you know it's "not an easy feature"? Google (pixel), Motorola (moto) along with other companies with stock android do it, and I think apple could do it as well. It probably already exists and it's just not enabled. For example, the vision pro has guest mode. So the ability to do it is there, they just have to refine it a bit for iOS. As to a loss of sales, then they could require a fee for the capability, voila, no loss in sales.
 
How do you know it's "not an easy feature"? Android did it, and I think apple, with hundreds of billions at their disposal could do it as well, albeit, it would probably only take a fraction of that. It probably already exists and it's just not enabled. For example, the vision pro has guest mode. So the ability to do it is there, they just have to refine it a bit for iOS. As to a loss of sales, then they could require a fee for the capability, voila, no loss in sales.
They would just require one of the higher spec tiers to enable multi-user. “You need at least 512 GB of storage to enable this feature”.
 
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How do you know it's "not an easy feature"? Google (pixel), Motorola (moto) along with other companies with stock android do it, and I think apple could do it as well. It probably already exists and it's just not enabled. For example, the vision pro has guest mode. So the ability to do it is there, they just have to refine it a bit for iOS. As to a loss of sales, then they could require a fee for the capability, voila, no loss in sales.
It already exists in a way: https://support.apple.com/guide/deployment/shared-ipad-overview-dep9a34c2ba2/web
 
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Exactly. 🙌 They should just take the existing feature, tune it for consumers, and possibly monetize it (if that's the roadblock) by requiring a minimum storage capacity for the feature to be present on a device. Like another user JB said "They would just require one of the higher spec tiers to enable multi-user. “You need at least 512 GB of storage to enable this feature”." Or something to that effect.
 
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Expecting to see an increase in RAM for Pro models next year. The year after, the non Pro models should get an increase
 
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12 gb of RAM in 2026! Exactly how much I had on Galaxy note 20 in 2020. I eager to wait for the time I can have 3 apps opened simultaneously without one of them closing while working with 2 others. I’ll be able finally ask Apple to address multitasking issues I complained to Samsung in 2020! But still 2 years till that time, so no multitasking, no complaints about its implementation. Grateful to Apple for that!
 
I swear, if rumors are stating that the 12GB of RAM will be exclusive to the 17 Pro Max, I will sell my 16 PM and wait to upgrade to that. I cannot stand two years of the Pro Max! My hands can only tolerate so much for just a year!
 
I put a new battery in my 13 Mini in March and its already crawling again so had to surrender and get a 16 Pro, I still prefer the mini but can't live with the battery life anymore
Seriously, even with a brand new battery that 13 mini with the A15 ran that slow on ios18?
 
Seriously, even with a brand new battery that 13 mini with the A15 ran that slow on ios18?
Hmmm… The SoC performance of my iPhone 12 Pro Max is just fine even with an 82% battery. It has only A14 and 6 GB RAM.

The 13 mini only has 4 GB RAM though, and I could see battery life on a 13 mini being an issue for some people too.


Those 8gb phones running apple intelligence are going to age just as well as the ipad3 did.
No. iPad 3 was in a totally different league of problematic. It’s no surprise Apple replaced it so quickly, as it was problematic even at launch.
 
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