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These are not lies. Fine print, disclaimers, etc have been a fact of business since the dawn of man. I do think Apple (and the tech industry as a whole) is much less shady and tricky than the majority of consumer retail companies. The iPhone IS half the price, unless you are already an AT&T customer who received a discounted phone on their current contract.

Hmm... I don't really see how these aren't lies. Justifying anything common practice does not make it ok, even if it was since the "dawn of man" (What was that like since you were there?). Sure, Apple is less "shady" than other companies, but again does that justify their deception. They said what they needed to in order to legally stay out of trouble, but it is what some might call bait and switch (although that is not technically correct). It's similar to what a magician does, distract the crowd with one thing so they don't hear or see the important stuff. (OK so in that since it has been around for a while) To avoid rehashing an earlier debate, I would like to address something interesting about the contract price for current customers. My wife and I have ATT phones and have for way too many years now. We are on a family plan. We BOTH bought phones about 1year ago when we renewed our contract. She did not want the iPhone at that time so she got a Blackberry, I got a cheap Nokia (the cheapest thing possible). In December she decided she wants an iPhone. So we get her one and her Blackberry goes to me (which required no contract renewal or anything through ATT, because I did not want a data plan). Now, she is eligible for an upgrade and I am not? Did ATT loose more money by allowing her to upgrade at the discounted price (Blackberry) or me (Nokia, a CHEAP one, although not really in price)? This is really not a new loophole as others pointed out before the launch. Apparently basic math has no place in determining prices for ATT?:confused:
 
I tried charging my iPhone from my iMac and had a 20% charge the next morning.

Form what I've read (the manual) if the computer goes to sleep it will not charge and the battery will drain. I suspect your iMac was set to sleep after a certain amount of time which might be lees than an hour. Since it take hours for a full charge....
 



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Gizmodo compiled this impressive chart of battery times for the iPhone 3G as reported by various reviewers.

Most reviewers found the iPhone 3G did have around 5 hours of talk time which was amongst the best for 3G handsets that were testing. The "mixed" use included web browsing and had far more variable results. In those tests, the iPhone 3G ranged from 2 hours and 52 minutes of use as high as 5 hours and 49 minutes.

Hardware site Anandtech actually performed dedicated web browsing tests for the iPhone 3G compared to the original iPhone on EDGE. They found that iPhone 3G (in 3G mode) could browse for 3 hours and 17 minutes, while the original iPhone browsing on 2G could browse for 5 hours and 42 minutes.

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How far we've come....
 
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