I havent returned my cracked case phone yet only because im wondering if I wait and they do make an update on the chip set I will be better off down the road. Also though I am wondering if I do return it I will just get an older iphone refurb.....
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I havent returned my cracked case phone yet only because im wondering if I wait and they do make an update on the chip set I will be better off down the road. Also though I am wondering if I do return it I will just get an older iphone refurb.....
All i know is I have lost more calls in the 3 weeks I have had with this 3g than i had in total in my 12 years with sprint. I thought it was just the network. Now im wondering. I will say this though. being able to have this phone in my pocket vs having to lug my laptop around is priceless.
so far so good for me in Vancouver
no dropped calls ever, the phone part of the phone is great!
3G works great
fast and speedy
it's the apps that drive me nuts. Crashing all the time.
but overall, the phone works as advertised for me
no dropped calls ever, the phone part of the phone is great!
3G works great
fast and speedy
it's the apps that drive me nuts. Crashing all the time.
but overall, the phone works as advertised for me
From the complaints I heard, too expensive and not 3G.
Now it's cheaper, in price and appears in some cases, quality, and now has the highly touted 3G, that, from complaints I've read, people have problems obtaining or maintaining.
Some people I've read, are happy they stuck with 1st gen iPhone, while others are good with iPhone 3G. As for me, I am awaiting the iPhone Steve Jobs dreamed of and these first two iterations of iPhones are just the test case on the way to THE iPhone Steve talked about.
'The answer my friend, is blowin in the wind, the answer is blowing in the wind...'
Just be thankful I didn't actually sing it!
Then you must not be running the latest OS on your iPhone.
Sure, Apps are neat and hold some legit potential, but not at the price we are paying for basic functionality.
Wish I hadn't upgraded.
App Store & mass email delete has not worth it. At all.
I have an original launch day iPhone.
Best/coolest device I had ever owned/used.
Had zero issues until 2.0.
Since upgrading, the thing is painfully slow to react to input (often times seeing upwards of 20 seconds before [say] SMS is available to receive any input). Massive lag between switching screens... typing is abysmal... lots of apps (OS apps, not just APP Store apps) crashing... every time I plug in my iPhone to iTunes (latest version) I only have an option to Restore. The list goes on and on and...
And let's not even addressing the MobileMe fiasco. Nightmare.
I had planned on setting up my wife with this device and upgrading to 3G. But there is no way I am pawning off such a frustrating user experience to her. Still in shock that there is an Apple product I can't recommend.
So weird. Usually the exact opposite.
To think I would honestly advise her to continue using her cracked screen (touch input no longer works) Treo 650, on VZW network, over a year-old iPhone... just blows my mind.
What is the world is going on in Cupertino?!?
GET IT FIXED, APPLE.
Very interesting! This definitely makes me think there is a bad batch of chips out there. Unless some of the third-party software installed on the badly performing iPhone is to blame somehow.
Interesting point made by someone earlier about the placebo/halo effect of doing a software update. I remember when 2.0.1, there were so many twitter and forum posts about how "they finally fixed it." I think really it was about the fact that they got all of us to just do a restore on our phones, which is what they recommended in the first place as a fix for a laggy iphone...
But now, it seems like that placebo effect has worn off and people are seeing that it's pretty much got the same issues. I personally am still experiencing occasional keyboard lag with text as well as lag in general. I will say though that I am not experiencing random App crashes anymore.
I am having 3G connectivity issues just like everyone else.
One observation I do want to put out there is that when my iPhone 3G is connected to the charger, the thing performs beautifully and seamlessly. Maybe the way the battery power is being allotted to the functions in the iPhone are too blame??
I wouldn't put it past Apple to do a software update to address the issues to get some good PR again. But my gut is telling me that it's also hardware related, which means Apple will quietly switch it out.
Remember with the original iPhone how so many people were complaining about the speakerphone being ridiculously quiet? I had to get mine replaced for an unrelated issue in March (I bought my original iphone in November 2007) and I noticed the speakerphone was so much louder. I asked others who got refurbs in a similar time frame and they noted the same thing....
But now, it seems like that placebo effect has worn off and people are seeing that it's pretty much got the same issues. I personally am still experiencing occasional keyboard lag with text as well as lag in general. I will say though that I am not experiencing random App crashes anymore.
I am having 3G connectivity issues just like everyone else.
One observation I do want to put out there is that when my iPhone 3G is connected to the charger, the thing performs beautifully and seamlessly. Maybe the way the battery power is being allotted to the functions in the iPhone are too blame??
I wouldn't put it past Apple to do a software update to address the issues to get some good PR again. But my gut is telling me that it's also hardware related, which means Apple will quietly switch it out.
Remember with the original iPhone how so many people were complaining about the speakerphone being ridiculously quiet? I had to get mine replaced for an unrelated issue in March (I bought my original iphone in November 2007) and I noticed the speakerphone was so much louder. I asked others who got refurbs in a similar time frame and they noted the same thing....
and I agree 200%. It's the original iPhone for me. The battery alone issue. It lasts me all day into the night with frequent use. My 3G friends die out mid afternoon.
The Rev Myth
As a former manager of one of the largest Apple service centers, I get a little tweaked when I read posts that arrogantly state, "You should wait until Rev C for any Apple product".
There are very few Rev C products from Apple. Almost always, Rev B or C... represent speed bumps or other configuration changes like RAM or disk capacity. I've even witnessed times where Rev A was fine, but service advisories were issues for subsequent Revs.
Furthermore, it's highly unlikely that we'll see even a Rev B of the iPhone. It's worth noting that the 1st generation iPhone never had a Rev B, and Apple has already ordered or manufactured a significant percentage of the iPhones it will sell through the end of the year.
Bottom line is that this can either be resolved through software, or if there's something that is done with the hardware, it will involve 10 million + iPhones.
As a former manager of one of the largest Apple service centers, I get a little tweaked when I read posts that arrogantly state, "You should wait until Rev C for any Apple product".
There are very few Rev C products from Apple. Almost always, Rev B or C... represent speed bumps or other configuration changes like RAM or disk capacity. I've even witnessed times where Rev A was fine, but service advisories were issues for subsequent Revs.
Furthermore, it's highly unlikely that we'll see even a Rev B of the iPhone. It's worth noting that the 1st generation iPhone never had a Rev B, and Apple has already ordered or manufactured a significant percentage of the iPhones it will sell through the end of the year.
Bottom line is that this can either be resolved through software, or if there's something that is done with the hardware, it will involve 10 million + iPhones.
Apple almost certainly implements silent fixes and tweaks on the fly. Everyone who works in manufacturing knows that changes are often made between batches to fix problems, regardless of rev# changes or not. Bottom line is it's much safer to wait a few months to purchase something that was just released...regardless of what it is.
What iPhone 3G issues?
I bought an iPhone 3G on the day of release - I didn't think the original iPhone was value for money and was crippled by lack of 3G connectivity. The experience I have had so far has been unparalleled in my experience with Apple products (and I've had a few - Performa 5400, Blueberry iMac 333, Pismo PowerBook (stolen), 1st Gen TiBook, 10GB 1st Gen iPod, iMacG5, 5G iPod and C2D MacBook personally, as well as Quadra AV840, Beige PowerMac G3, PowerMac G4 733 DA and MacPro Dual Quad 3Ghz at work). I got the 8GB 3G iPhone (£99) from CarPhone Warehouse and the £30 plan from O2 and apart from the wait for the inexperienced assistant to authorise my credit card, it was a smooth process and took less than 30 min total from walking up to the shop. When I got home, opened up my iPhone and inserted my O2 SIM card it activated at the fourth attempt from iTunes (this was the evening of the world wide launch and probably early morning - mid afternoon in the USA, so I guess the servers were a touch busy). I got the hang of the phone really quickly, set it up for WiFi access on my home network and had soon downloaded a half-dozen apps from the App store. I've used the phone ever since with no dropped calls and only a single freeze (on v.2.0.0 while using the LastFM app). I just set up telekinesis from Google to allow remote access of my work machine as well as media streaming from my iTunes library hosted on my AirDisk at home. In the meantime my wife and stepson have been having network coverage issues with Orange where they haven't been able to reliably make calls or receive texts without leaving the house. My stepson had upgraded his phone to a Nokia N95 a month before I got my iPhone and hasn't even been able to set up WiFi on his phone yet. So in conclusion, I have to say that while I've owned some great Apple products in the past my experience with the iPhone 3G is that this is the first 'insanely great' Apple product that I've ever owned.
I bought an iPhone 3G on the day of release - I didn't think the original iPhone was value for money and was crippled by lack of 3G connectivity. The experience I have had so far has been unparalleled in my experience with Apple products (and I've had a few - Performa 5400, Blueberry iMac 333, Pismo PowerBook (stolen), 1st Gen TiBook, 10GB 1st Gen iPod, iMacG5, 5G iPod and C2D MacBook personally, as well as Quadra AV840, Beige PowerMac G3, PowerMac G4 733 DA and MacPro Dual Quad 3Ghz at work). I got the 8GB 3G iPhone (£99) from CarPhone Warehouse and the £30 plan from O2 and apart from the wait for the inexperienced assistant to authorise my credit card, it was a smooth process and took less than 30 min total from walking up to the shop. When I got home, opened up my iPhone and inserted my O2 SIM card it activated at the fourth attempt from iTunes (this was the evening of the world wide launch and probably early morning - mid afternoon in the USA, so I guess the servers were a touch busy). I got the hang of the phone really quickly, set it up for WiFi access on my home network and had soon downloaded a half-dozen apps from the App store. I've used the phone ever since with no dropped calls and only a single freeze (on v.2.0.0 while using the LastFM app). I just set up telekinesis from Google to allow remote access of my work machine as well as media streaming from my iTunes library hosted on my AirDisk at home. In the meantime my wife and stepson have been having network coverage issues with Orange where they haven't been able to reliably make calls or receive texts without leaving the house. My stepson had upgraded his phone to a Nokia N95 a month before I got my iPhone and hasn't even been able to set up WiFi on his phone yet. So in conclusion, I have to say that while I've owned some great Apple products in the past my experience with the iPhone 3G is that this is the first 'insanely great' Apple product that I've ever owned.
Right now for me the biggest problem I have with the 3G iphone is the damn software. It is sooo slow and the contacts app sucks. Sometimes, I will go to send a text message, and it will take forever to type anything as there is a huge lag with the keyboard. With all that said- I am inclined to believe its a software problem. I don't see how they screwed all this up. 1.1.4 worked great and you would think that 2.0.1 would work just as good. Ive been pondering on just installing 1.1.4 on my 3G iphone- but hoping apple will issue and update that will fix this. I feel like I bought the phone version of a commodore vic 20.
I am in Houston and have the 3G iphone and get horrible 3g reception in and out of the house. Whats worse is that i compared it with a friends 3g smartphone with ATT right next to mine and his showed 4 beautiful 3g bars, mine was waving between no bars and 1 little bar.
When I put my sim card in his phone, it showed the same 4 bars. Then I put it back in my iphone and got 1 bar (he put his sim in and got the same result as me).
Conclusion-
The iphone is the problem. I hope that it is just in need of a software update. I'm paying 30.00 per month for 3G data that I dont have (but the coverage map says im right in the middle of the houston 3G network).
Down with
!!!!!!!!! (At least until this is fixed)
When I put my sim card in his phone, it showed the same 4 bars. Then I put it back in my iphone and got 1 bar (he put his sim in and got the same result as me).
Conclusion-
The iphone is the problem. I hope that it is just in need of a software update. I'm paying 30.00 per month for 3G data that I dont have (but the coverage map says im right in the middle of the houston 3G network).
Down with
!!!!!!!!! (At least until this is fixed)I live in Miami and I get a really good 3g signal most of the time. Speeds vary, but I have topped out at close to 1.5mbits.
I think Miami is good area to have an iPhone because...
1) There is good 3g coverage because is a big city (yeah, we even have a real downtown with big buildings and stuff now!)
2) Even though florida is known for its older population, its not as big in teh south florida area, but even the younger crowd just isn't that much into technology compared to cities like NYC, San Fran, etc. so there is plenty of signal to go around
3) Its flat here! So no mountains or anything getting in the way of my precious 3g signal
I think Miami is good area to have an iPhone because...
1) There is good 3g coverage because is a big city (yeah, we even have a real downtown with big buildings and stuff now!)
2) Even though florida is known for its older population, its not as big in teh south florida area, but even the younger crowd just isn't that much into technology compared to cities like NYC, San Fran, etc. so there is plenty of signal to go around
3) Its flat here! So no mountains or anything getting in the way of my precious 3g signal
Geez, I hope this can be fixed with software fixes, otherwise, Apple is going to learn a very expensive lesson if it has to recall every phone.
Making it up?? That'll go over well here.
Yes, because the first iPhone worked flawlessly from day one, didn't it??
Making it up?? That'll go over well here.
Yes, because the first iPhone worked flawlessly from day one, didn't it??
I am not that impressed with the AT&T network. I wonder how many issues are just network coverage issues.
You can't compare the 2g iPhone to 3g iPhone making 3g calls. The networks are seperate and independent. You can very easily be in a place with great gsm coverage but poor or no 3g coverage. To make a reasonable comparison between the 2g and 3g iPhone you need to turn off 3g on the 3g iPhone. Most reports are that the new 3g iPhone gets better gsm reception than the 2g iPhone.
And my motorola v9 will report 5bars 3g then suddenly go to 1 bar or even no service. I don't quite understand what's up with that. My sprint phones did not experience that sort of behavior. My area uses 1900mhz for both AT&T gsm and 3g and sprint.
I am in a maringally poor coverage area so maybe the problem needs a strong crowded 3g area to surface itself?