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Your information didn't come from Apple, it came from some drone working at an Apple Store. And it's not true. If you can't distinguish between reliable information released by Apple or AT&T through proper channels and strange rumors from floor staff, then maybe you have a problem.

Here is a relevant quote from CNET:

So now we can't even use the 2G iPhone as a backup phone?? :confused::mad:


ooooh your saying that that news isn't from Apple so it may not be accurate...:eek:
 
In-store activation is a deal killer for me. I have never had a good experience with AT&T's in-store sales staff.

I don't like to be hounded to purchase additional options or accessories, and the last thing I want is an AT&T clerk messing around with my new iPhone 3G.

Apple really had something special and different with iPhone. Too bad they decided to revert back to a more traditional model to try to achieve mass market sales.
 
In-store activation is a deal killer for me. I have never had a good experience with AT&T's in-store sales staff.

I don't like to be hounded to purchase additional options or accessories, and the last thing I want is an AT&T clerk messing around with my new iPhone 3G.

Apple really had something special and different with iPhone. Too bad they decided to revert back to a more traditional model to try to achieve mass market sales.

Here's a solution...if you don't want any other option or accessories then say "no thank you". You have the unlockers to thank for the shift back to the traditional model. If you want a 3G and don't like AT&T then go to an Apple store to buy it. If you are not near an Apple store then go to AT&T...the boogie man won't get you. It's a phone.
 
You from the UK by any chance? NEVER EVER heard of ANY of those transistor radio brands in the US. Maybe they did manage to survive in the UK.

Here one of the top manufacturer's was Lloyd's and Montgomery Wards. Silvertone. All without a trace.

ummm. I'm from the US and i have a Philips TV... It's old as Sh*t.. but i've got one.. :)
 
ummm. I'm from the US and i have a Philips TV... It's old as Sh*t.. but i've got one.. :)

Point was letting desktop workstations development suffer in favor of handheld iCrap. One look at the Mac Pro and cinema display "when to buy" page on here tells the tale, given the last Mac Pro update wasn't an update at all.

I've seen big console Philips TV's myself; never any Philips transistor radios.

Console TV's were the 60's equivalent of expensive high end market desktop computers.

Just another symptom of "Awesome!!" disease from the dying music industry to apple; instead of catering to the boomers where the money is, catering to the millennials where it isn't (who "download" everything.)

Quickly obsolescent quantity vs. lasting quality. Works in the short run but will absolutely destroy you in the long run.

Apple used to have it right; they've now gone iCrap crazy. Jobs needs to read the story about how fads and the companies that create them end, not just the middle part where they make a zillion dollars.

I'm not saying don't have an iCrap divison; I'm saying don't bet the farm on it and let high end product languish, and that they most definitely are. The marketplace isn't where they're going just yet. :apple:
 
Here are 8 Philips transistor radios from the 60's, if anyone is interested:

http://www.hoenmeuffels.nl/oldradios/8phil.html

Btw, Xjilb, I agree with your argument. They are really stuffing it to the pros, or shall we say "more discerning" customers. Not only in terms of features and updates on both the hardware and software-front, but also when it comes to quality, or the dwindling quality, again both on the hardware and software front.
 
hi, does anybody know if we can use the most primitive copy/paste function on the most advanced smartest prettiest phone on the planet?
thanks.
 
hi, does anybody know if we can use the most primitive copy/paste function on the most advanced smartest prettiest phone on the planet?
thanks.

Yes, you can. Unfortunately for iPhone-buyers, the iPhone isn't "the most advanced" of its kind, so if you buy one of them, you're sod out of luck.
 
It definitely depends on the age group. Teenagers love text messages, and, unfortunately, their job interview skills suffer greatly from this obsession. I own some restaurant franchises, and it is amazing how many 16-25 year olds can't look you in the eye or speak in a complete sentence. A whole generation is becoming unhirable because they can't communicate. If we had positions for speed texting on a Sidekick, then I'd have an endless stream of qualified applicants. Unfortunately, that skill doesn't really translate to the real world.

Personally, I fit in this bracket, and barely do anything with SMS. Even though the iPhone (First Generation) has 200 messages, I usually attempt to send complete sentences with minimal acronyms. I usually do not send these types of messages to people, based on not always knowing if they have a plan for SMS or not (in the US, you pay for incomming SMS).
 
Don't listen to markcc (no one else does), he has been making things up for the last several days. My guess is he is Steve Balmar. Anyway, if you already have an iPhone and upgrade to the 3G, you still keep your original iPhone and you can use it's wifi functionality, just not the voice or edge data services (unless you get a separate plan & SIM for it, or if someone else does if you want to sell yor phone or give it away).

I'm not....his claim to begin with is outside what most websites and media sources are saying.
 
Here are 8 Philips transistor radios from the 60's, if anyone is interested:

http://www.hoenmeuffels.nl/oldradios/8phil.html

Btw, Xjilb, I agree with your argument. They are really stuffing it to the pros, or shall we say "more discerning" customers. Not only in terms of features and updates on both the hardware and software-front, but also when it comes to quality, or the dwindling quality, again both on the hardware and software front.

Hey thanks for the radios! Must have been all European, I don't remember ever seeing any of those, and the ones I was thnking about were a half to quarter their size, the palm-sized ones with 2" speakers that were out in the late 60's that correspond to the iPod today. Think those were early 60s.

At least with SnowLeopard they're trying to finally fix the OS, and that's a step in the right direction. Hopefully they've been listening to the complaints on the top of the line hardware front as well.

Thanks!:apple:
 
Hey thanks for the radios! Must have been all European, I don't remember ever seeing any of those, and the ones I was thnking about were a half to quarter their size, the palm-sized ones with 2" speakers that were out in the late 60's that correspond to the iPod today. Think those were early 60s.

I found some palm sized ones. It's propably some of these you think of:

http://www.oaktreeent.com/Transistor_Radios.htm


At least with SnowLeopard they're trying to finally fix the OS, and that's a step in the right direction. Hopefully they've been listening to the complaints on the top of the line hardware front as well.
I don't have my hopes up anymore, to be honest. But, yes, it's a good thing they're finally trying to (let's hope they don't ef it up).
 
Iphone cell plan help!!!

Hi, I'm from the caribbean and i'm getting an unlocked iphone to use over here. I'll be relocating to the states for school in fall and i'll like to know if i can bring my unlocked iphone over there and activate it. Also, can I can a contract with a carrier over there being that i'm intl? Please help.
 
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