Right now, the Zune HD has the feature built in. The iPod Touch/iPhone doesn't (or at least it's crippled).
I'm hoping for a refresh to the touch in September that gives HD playback through video out.
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iPhone 3GS Capable of High-Definition Video Playback?
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Right now, the Zune HD has the feature built in. The iPod Touch/iPhone doesn't (or at least it's crippled).
I'm hoping for a refresh to the touch in September that gives HD playback through video out.
So you can output that video in HD on a projector/lcd/plasma when presenting a video or animation to more than one person.
It's not going to be a killer feature for everyone, but for artists and animators- having an HD version of your reel on your Touch would be brilliant.
I want it for that purpose. I could care less if Joe Sixpack shows HD movies of his kids.
Makes sense to cripple the software, else people would whine about the capacities. Still, 1080p at 30 Mbps is rather impressive.
I'm still waiting for a reasonably prices camcorder that does 720p without being more blurry than a normal standard definition camcorder and doesn't skip frames when recording.
The Kodak Zi 8 might be the answer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2fXbvTeDXY
How long it took to get mms? oh wait still dont have it! well kind of dont have it, capable of it but still cant use it..... So HD output would be great but it might take a while
I have it on my iPhone here in the UK we got it before US iPhone users, I think AT&T are having to manually enable accounts or something, We've had MMS since the 3.0 update came out lol
ha ha its so sneaky of Apple to add HD ability on the 3GS lol, it will take away the limelight from the Zune HD when launched .
Seriously though why do Microsoft even bother??, the iPod has been an established name since 2001, Zune hasn't even put a dent in the MP3 market & hasn't for the past 3 years, Apple timed it right, there wasn't a single competitor in 2001 that was good enough, Making a great market for Apple, Microsoft give up you've had it lol
.Seriously though why do Microsoft even bother??, the iPod has been an established name since 2001, Zune hasn't even put a dent in the MP3 market & hasn't for the past 3 years, Apple timed it right, there wasn't a single competitor in 2001 that was good enough, Making a great market for Apple, Microsoft give up you've had it lol
What remains most entertaining, is that MS strategically announced the Zune HD on May 26, a time during which they knew that the iPhone 3GS would be in mass production. Perhaps they figured they could beat the iPhone to the punch with a "killer" feature, one which would be too late to be built into the iPhone, and that HD, as "The Social," would distinguish the Zune as being the first small media player to sport HD(720p). Little did they know....ha ha its so sneaky of Apple to add HD ability on the 3GS lol, it will take away the limelight from the Zune HD when launched
Seriously though why do Microsoft even bother??, the iPod has been an established name since 2001, Zune hasn't even put a dent in the MP3 market Sony probably sell more walkman players & stuff
Semantics! Please!
HD playback on them small screens ain't nothing special as you really wouldn't notice anything anyway. The specs on the iphone screen are nice and the pictures are crisp. Now, as for them fools over at MS touting HD playback on the new Zune HD. Take it with a grain of salt. You have to consider battery life, file size and heat. That tegra chip would be working overtime.
IMHO, as always.
HD playback on them small screens ain't nothing special as you really wouldn't notice anything anyway. The specs on the iphone screen are nice and the pictures are crisp. Now, as for them fools over at MS touting HD playback on the new Zune HD. Take it with a grain of salt. You have to consider battery life, file size and heat. That tegra chip would be working overtime.
IMHO, as always.
Media Out Interface. Seeing as Apple TV SKU's are likely getting a refresh, it's posssible that we'll see the iPhone being able to do video playback via a TV/Screen. Would be useful in gaming too...
From back in May:
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/7620756/
(read with a mid evil accent, think "The Gladiator")
First you could control your iTunes with your iPhone!
Now you can control your television with your iPhone!
Before long ... YOU WILL BE ABLE TO CONTROL THE WORLD FROM YOUR IPHONE!!!!
You do understand that h.264 can be associated with many extensions, including in this case .mp4? An extension associates a format with a program (in this case .mp4 to itunes) or can be associated with a format (h.264 to .mkv). Just like you can rename a .ogg to .mp3 and Winamp will still play it, but iTunes won't.
He was referring to HD being h.264, which people associate with the .mkv extension, which is not true.
He doesn't know what he's talking about. He isn't aware of the difference between a codec and a container format.
Changing a file's extension only changes the association if the OS has each filetype associated to a different program. If the container format is MKV, changing the extension from .mkv to .mp4 doesn't suddenly make the file an MPEG 4 container and compatible with programs that cannot parse MKV files. The Winamp example only works because Winamp can understand both mp3 and ogg formats, which aren't even the same codec.
h264 is a codec for a video stream, and generally has to be contained in an actual container file to be played by applications. You can even have h264 in a AVI file if you want, doesn't mean changing the extension to .mp4 will allow you to play it in iTunes.
1980 x 1080?
Where did this 1980 x 1080 video come from?
1080p/i is 1920 (NOT 1980) x 1080.
Just looked at the original Chinese post and it correctly states 1920. iLounge must have mistyped.
Also nowhere in the original post does it say 30fps for 1080p. The only frame rate reference is for 1440x1080p at 25fps.
Sorry, I'm a video editor so little things like frame size and rate I notice.
Where did this 1980 x 1080 video come from?
1080p/i is 1920 (NOT 1980) x 1080.
Just looked at the original Chinese post and it correctly states 1920. iLounge must have mistyped.
Also nowhere in the original post does it say 30fps for 1080p. The only frame rate reference is for 1440x1080p at 25fps.
Sorry, I'm a video editor so little things like frame size and rate I notice.
GOOD TO SEE Macrumors finally catch up with this...
I sent news about this many months ago...
Sent the video and everything... they could have cited their website rather than iLounge for it! (Funny how it has to be 'Chinese' source before it becomes interesting....)
Besides this it is good to see people a lot of people getting the point of HD playback. For more details on this issue:
http://puercaeli.tistory.com/351
http://www.touchmyapps.com/2009/07/13/hi-def-video-playback-on-the-iphone-3gs-is-real/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbkclSYnzxc&feature=player_embedded
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/739619/
To point few issues:
-without the cable, that is on screen 640x480 video to HD video does not make much difference(if the video is encoded well)
-Penalty in battery is not too bad. I calculated approx 5hrs playback
-1080 resoultion plays well depending on the bitrate obviously...
-current no 3GS Apple Mobile OS platofrom plays upto DVD resolution only even with the bypass
-iTunes has arbitary limitation on the file size; hence not allowing these HD files to come through via iTunes syncing
I sent news about this many months ago...
Sent the video and everything... they could have cited their website rather than iLounge for it! (Funny how it has to be 'Chinese' source before it becomes interesting....)
Besides this it is good to see people a lot of people getting the point of HD playback. For more details on this issue:
http://puercaeli.tistory.com/351
http://www.touchmyapps.com/2009/07/13/hi-def-video-playback-on-the-iphone-3gs-is-real/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbkclSYnzxc&feature=player_embedded
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/739619/
To point few issues:
-without the cable, that is on screen 640x480 video to HD video does not make much difference(if the video is encoded well)
-Penalty in battery is not too bad. I calculated approx 5hrs playback
-1080 resoultion plays well depending on the bitrate obviously...
-current no 3GS Apple Mobile OS platofrom plays upto DVD resolution only even with the bypass
-iTunes has arbitary limitation on the file size; hence not allowing these HD files to come through via iTunes syncing
I have it, and have been using it every day since OS3.0 came out; it's great!
Oh, you mean *you* don't have it in *your* country. Nothing to do with Apple I guess then, it must be your cellular provider.
So the point of your whiney post is? It might take a while for sure, but it's a little different to MMS don't you think; can't see that HD video output has much to do with cellular networks, unless you're streaming it (which is not under discussion here).
Yep, pretty much! Thats why i sed its capable of it but cant use it, and no its not whiney post, sure didnt mean it to sound like one. But while MMS is different from HD playback its still a feature, and while apple does make very advanced phone they do leave some simple features out. And while cellular networks and streaming data is not discussed here by *you* i will fell free to discuss it if i like.
Great, now a hand held phone is more useful than the AppleTV.
AppleTV was never usefull, at least in my eyes anyway
Would be interesting to see how hot the 3GS gets and how long it takes to explode, or something over-the-top and dramatic to that effect.
The 3mpx camera being appalling in dark conditions is a matter of physics.
For any given camera sensor size, higher resolution means smaller photo-sites (those bits of sensor that capture light and are considered a 'pixel' in the final image.
A smaller photo-site is less sensitive than a larger one.
Given those two things, a higher-resolution camera will often times produce a worse picture than a lower-resolution one, simply because the high-res sensor can't capture enough light to properly 'expose', so you get lots of noise.
This, combined with lens quality, is why a 6MP DSLR produces a better image than a 12MP point-and-shoot.
If you were really concerned about image quality, or performance in low-light situations, you'd want Apple to stay with the current resolution while sensor tech improves the sensitivity of the photo-sites. Bumping up the resolution without those improvements will result in *worse* performance in low-light conditions.