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iPhone 3GS and later confirmed to have iOS 6

...And the 3rd generation iPod touch is confirmed not to have iOS 6. These two devices are virtually identically spec'ed, aside from the lack of a camera.

This just goes further to debunk all these assertions that somehow, the technological capabilities would act as the final, determining factor in the decision to discontinue support for older hardware in newer OSes.

Certainly hardware has some role to play. But Apple has already shown that, when it suits their business interests to do so and the hardware is only mildly obsolete, they are willing scale back functionality in the software rather than discontinue support entirely. (See iOS 4 on iPhone 3G for example).

I think the much more important factor for them is probably the question of how recently they stopped selling a discontinued model.

If an older generation is still being actively advertised alongside a more current product, then they will always find a way to get the newest iOS on the older generation, making compromises to account for any hardware limitations.

On the other hand, if at the time a model was discontinued, iOS version X had been preloaded on the device, then when iOS version (X+1) comes along, they will figure out how to get it on there (making compromises to account for any hardware limitations). But version (X+2) will be iffy.
 
More disappointing is the lack of support for the original iPad... which is almost on par with the iPhone 4...
 
This just proves my suspicion all along. The decision of which device to support is arbitrary, in discretion of Apple. Trying to explain this from a technical point just doesn't equate. 3gs and iPad both have 256mb of Ram...if it's supported on one device, the other device should be supported as well.

Personally, I am glad that 3gs is still supported. I just didn't care for people coming up with excuses for Apple.
 
This just proves my suspicion all along. The decision of which device to support is arbitrary, in discretion of Apple. Trying to explain this from a technical point just doesn't equate. 3gs and iPad both have 256mb of Ram...if it's supported on one device, the other device should be supported as well.

Personally, I am glad that 3gs is still supported. I just didn't care for people coming up with excuses for Apple.

Arbitrary? Maybe to us, but I'm sure Apple has a method to their madness.
 
...And the 3rd generation iPod touch is confirmed not to have iOS 6. These two devices are virtually identically spec'ed, aside from the lack of a camera.

That struck me as bizarre too. It shows that they don't put a lot of important on the iPod. Developers are going to have to keep iOS 5 support if they want a broad audience, as the OG iPad and now the iPod 3rd Gen will be stuck there. Hopefully iOS 6 on the 3GS doesn't turn into a turd bird like iOS 4 on the 3G did.
 
This just proves my suspicion all along. The decision of which device to support is arbitrary, in discretion of Apple. Trying to explain this from a technical point just doesn't equate. 3gs and iPad both have 256mb of Ram...if it's supported on one device, the other device should be supported as well.

Personally, I am glad that 3gs is still supported. I just didn't care for people coming up with excuses for Apple.

The 8 and 16gb iPod touch 3G models are 2G guts inside with 128mb RAM but the 32 and 64gb models are 256Mb ram with the cortex a8 like the 3GS. For the sake of confusing customers those who have the 32/64 models (got two of them for the kids) are stuck on iOS 5.X which sucks frankly..
 
You can thank 9 to 5 Mac with this "photoshop" picture :rolleyes:
I guess you don't know how to read a calendar. :rolleyes:
An image with a date of June 11, 2012 being posted on June 9, 2012 is obviously an altered "Photoshopped" image. ;)

Just because the information contained in the altered image turned out to be true later on, doesn't take away form the fact that the image was a fake.
 

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this update is basically useless for phones that are iphone 4 and under right? i mean the biggest addition is probably turn by turn navigation and that doesnt work unless you have 4s right?

oh well...lets hope the new phone they come out with gets a bigger screen, if so i'll just have to upgrade
 
this update is basically useless for phones that are iphone 4 and under right? i mean the biggest addition is probably turn by turn navigation and that doesnt work unless you have 4s right?

oh well...lets hope the new phone they come out with gets a bigger screen, if so i'll just have to upgrade

Sadly it seems so, as an iPhone 4 owner myself i dont think i will bother upgrading to iOS 6. I will wait and see what the new iPhone has to offer later in the year. I'm feeling more unimpressed with iOS 6 the more i read abut it.
 
not possible, the limitations are hardware based not software based.
Not true.
Changing a CPU's clock speed is a simple matter of tweaking software/firmware.
The only limitation is in the chips design.

It's well known that Apple under clocked the 3GS and even the iPhone 4's CPU. So bumping it up to the CPU's native speed should be a non-issue from a software perspective.

The issue with ramping up the clock speed on the CPU is you will get more heat and decreased battery life with a bump up.
 
Not true.
Changing a CPU's clock speed is a simple matter of tweaking software/firmware.
It's well known that Apple under clocked the 3GS and even the iPhone 4's CPU.

The issue with ramping up the clock speed on the CPU is you will get more heat and decreased battery life with a bump up.

nope, if it was that easy why do you think there is no real tweak on Cydia to enable overclocking ;)
 
nope, if it was that easy why do you think there is no real tweak on Cydia to enable overclocking ;)
You obviously never overclocked a CPU on a mobile device before have you?
It's all about software.
Apple hasn't released the source code for the iOS kernel and the underlying firmware. Without it, you're dead in the water.

Jailbreaking is only a small part. That's why you won't find anything in Cydia.
Sure you can edit some power management plist files to get a fake bump, but it's worthless.

You need access to the kernel source code to recompile a new kernel with new clock values.
This is something only Apple can do for now.
 
Apple loves to sell hardware.

The concept of backwards compatibility makes them cringe. Forcing users to buy new phones makes the smile. It's obvious what Apple wants.

Apple always gets what Apple wants :)
 
The 8 and 16gb iPod touch 3G models are 2G guts inside with 128mb RAM but the 32 and 64gb models are 256Mb ram with the cortex a8 like the 3GS. For the sake of confusing customers those who have the 32/64 models (got two of them for the kids) are stuck on iOS 5.X which sucks frankly..

The 16 GB variant of iPod touch was discontinued at the same time the 3rd generation iPod touch was announced.

Further, Apple never claimed to have sell an 8GB variant of 3rd generation iPod touch. Instead, they announced that they would keep on selling a cost-reduced version of the 2nd generation 8GB unit, alongside the true 3rd generation 32GB and 64GB units. All of their support documents make this distinction quite prominently.

This has nothing to do with "avoiding confusion". It has very little to do with hardware deficiencies. This has everything to do with timelines.

They'll make sure that all their currently shipping models are supported by the latest OS. They'll also make sure to make the new iOS as backwards-compatible as possible with any devices that included a contractual guarantee to deliver at least one major new iOS version as part of their software license agreement. And they'll make sure to drop support for any models that would have been discontinued more than one complete major iOS refresh cycle ago, by the time the new iOS goes GM.

Any extra subtleties (such as recognizing that some current models have specification parity with certain recent former models) are nothing more than annoying distractions to their main business case, which is and always has been to drive the sales of more units.

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this update is basically useless for phones that are iphone 4 and under right? i mean the biggest addition is probably turn by turn navigation and that doesnt work unless you have 4s right?

oh well...lets hope the new phone they come out with gets a bigger screen, if so i'll just have to upgrade

It would also doubtless contain the latest versions of all the major open source projects that contribute to iOS and its related technologies, most prominently WebKit in Safari. With that will surely come bug fixes and security improvements. From that perspective, if your device is still supported you'll almost certainly be better off installing the upgrade.
 
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