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Please tell us what else the could put in it?

Seriously?

Compared to iPhone 3G:

FM/HD Radio
FM Transmitter
OLED Screen
Wireless charging interface
Front facing camera
Rear camera zoom and flash
NFC for Visa PayWave, MC PayPass, and AMEX ExpressPay transactions
Bluetooth 3.0
Wi-Fi N
Up to 12 MP camera
Mini-projector
Fingerprint reader
Stereo speakers
Solar panel
...

I'm not saying that I would expect all of these features at once. However, all of these features are features that are feasible, and nearly all of them have been implemented in at least some cell phone models, from some cell manufacturers, in some countries.

Based on precedent, I'd say pick 1-2 (from any feature list, not just mine) and that's what you'll get per revision. My point, however, is that there are A LOT of things that COULD be added.
 
I'm so tired of the "Marble" rumor. Doesn't anyone know what real marble looks like? Why would Apple make an interface that looked like marble?

It's a codename. Think black menu bar, iTunes scrollbars, darker greys and black.
 
Seriously, this guy pisses me off. Its like he's leeching off Macrumors and other sources alike to make his "own" predictions.

This doesn't even make sense. What do you want? A blog written by Steve Jobs himself. This is the first of hearing about 3GS.

I don't understand how this pisses you off. He is a writer for a blog, who uses info he has from various sources to write his opinions.
 
The "S" must stand for Snow Leopard, and the new iPhone is the first Mac to run the new operating system. We thought it was going to have a "significantly faster" processor, but actually it's just better optimized! ;)
 
Well, I hope they at least give us new wallpaper and colors or something. I'm getting bored. I can't stand the thought of nothing new to look at for another 2 years.
 
Finally! Realistic predictions for the keynote tomorrow.

1. iPhone OS 3.0
2. New iPhone
3. Snow Leopard preview

No new low-end iPhone. the $99 price point will be to burn off the existing supply of 8GB iPhone 3Gs.

Mac speed bumps will be addressed in a press release before the end of the month, but not at WWDC.

The one thing I can't predict is when the new phone will go on sale. Immediately? This Friday? July? My hope is this Friday. But I suspect it will closer to mid-July. Based on all of the component pics that we've seen, I suspect that they've ramped up production and have a sufficient number in the pipeline.
 
Wouldn't it make sense to introduce the new interface now and not later since most developers will already be re-writing their code base for 64-bit?

If developers are going to be putting in time to tweak their apps to run best on Snow Leopard, why not give them the new interface as well?

Plus I thought those interface controls were standard? I assumed that to get the Aqua scrollbars in your app....you just need to add the code for the scroll bar. Doesn't the OS take care of the rest? Isn't that why you can technically HACK Leopard to have a different theme?

I'm not a developer so I'm speculating. Can someone who knows OS X development chime in and say whether Gruber might be on to something?

-Kevin

PS. Put me in the camp of disappointed if we don't see a new interface. I think OS X STILL looks 10x better than either Vista or 7 (can't stand the Aero transparency....seriously, why do I want to see a window behind my current window bleed through??).....but I think a new interface would go a long way to helping it battle against Windows 7.
 
No new low-end iPhone. the $99 price point will be to burn off the existing supply of 8GB iPhone 3Gs.

Sort of have to agree with this. I don't get why "analysts" get so worked up about a $99 iPhone.

So this reduces cost of ownership from $2400 to $2300 over two years. BFD! Why isn't anyone pushing AT$T to lower data rates and/or INCLUDE SMS? These are the real costs of ownership for the iPhone. The initial purchase (whether it be $100, $200, or $300) just isn't significant when the big picture is examined.
 
I guess I'm having a hard time understanding the appeal to a.) front facing camera and b.) video conferencing.

w00master


as a class of '09 High School graduate who also attends college, i can say that without question, if apple put a front facing camera in the phone with videochat and photobooth, it would be suchhh a hit in the under 25 audience, but especially under 18 age group.

OMG it would be so huge.
 
John Gruber :

But while I am convinced that “Marble” is a real design project at Apple, I no longer believe it is slated for Snow Leopard.

Or more likely his "contact" at Apple used him to post a fake rumor.

Apple employees have internet contests to see who can get fake rumors posted.
 
Sort of have to agree with this. I don't get why "analysts" get so worked up about a $99 iPhone.

So this reduces cost of ownership from $2400 to $2300 over two years. BFD! Why isn't anyone pushing AT$T to lower data rates and/or INCLUDE SMS? These are the real costs of ownership for the iPhone. The initial purchase (whether it be $100, $200, or $300) just isn't significant when the big picture is examined.

Why are analysts so concerned? Because they know that the sticker price is what consumers look at! Also, for the consumers who do consider the long term cost of any additional expenses COMPARED to their current phone/smartphone plan, they also must keep in mind what they can afford to, or want to spend, upfront for the hardware.
 
Well, I hope they at least give us new wallpaper and colors or something. I'm getting bored. I can't stand the thought of nothing new to look at for another 2 years.

i agree with you. i'm expecting for new ringtones for txts/calls and like u said, wallpapers!
 
Meh. Gruber is not always right. I hope Marble does debut tomorrow.

We debated this in the previous thread, but wasn't Leopard's UI unveiled to developers at WWDC '07? Just months before it shipped?

BTW, AppleInsider has been touting Marble was ready to be unveiled since at least last March.
 
There are really only a few things I want to learn tomorrow. What the price of the new iPhone is going to be and if current iPhone owners can upgrade with a new 2 year contract for the reduced price. The only other thing I would like to know about is when Snow Leopard is shipping and what it is going to cost.
 
I'm so tired of the "Marble" rumor. Doesn't anyone know what real marble looks like? Why would Apple make an interface that looked like marble?

i would think that 'marble' in this case would refer to the 'marbling of cakes', in which a color that contrasts the base color would be mixed in certain areas. here's an example. alot of the early marble leaks have a bunch of white on black look, which is similar to this example.
 
Sort of have to agree with this. I don't get why "analysts" get so worked up about a $99 iPhone.

So this reduces cost of ownership from $2400 to $2300 over two years. BFD! Why isn't anyone pushing AT$T to lower data rates and/or INCLUDE SMS? These are the real costs of ownership for the iPhone. The initial purchase (whether it be $100, $200, or $300) just isn't significant when the big picture is examined.

Agreed. 99USD for an iPhone would be nice(well for some people, I want the 32GB model, so I'm not sure I'd see an benefit from a lower end model), but give me data back for 20USD! Or give me tethering included with my 30USD I'm paying now...that'd be great!
 
as a class of '09 High School graduate who also attends college, i can say that without question, if apple put a front facing camera in the phone with videochat and photobooth, it would be suchhh a hit in the under 25 audience, but especially under 18 age group.

OMG it would be so huge.

Imagine the hit it would be with battery life too!!
 
And a nitro engine :)

Don't forget the free Bandicoot included with every new iPhone!

i would think that 'marble' in this case would refer to the 'marbling of cakes', in which a color that contrasts the base color would be mixed in certain areas. here's an example. alot of the early marble leaks have a bunch of white on black look, which is similar to this example.

Hmm... Looks like Snow Leopard will be tasty!
 
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