iPhone 3GS Or iPod Touch 4th Generation?

Goftrey

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I've got £130 ($210) in my pocket and after living life without an iOS device for the past 6 months I've decided to buy myself one of the two devices above.

The quickest iOS device I've ever owned is an 8gb 2009 iPod Touch so I will probably appreciate either of these more than most.

If anyone has had experience with both of these in the past It'd be appreciated if you could give a comparison on which ones quicker etc. & which one copes best in 2012.

I can pick up an 8 or 16gb 3GS for around £110 ($175)
I can pick up an 8gb iPod Touch 4th Generation for £95 ($155) or the 32gb for £130 ($210).

Thanks in advance guys :)
 

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iPod Touch 4 is noticeably quicker than the 3GS, the speed is comparable to the iPhone 4 model. The touch will handle iOS 6 much better as well. It all comes down to whether or not you want a phone more, or an iPod right now.
 

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If you're wanting to jailbreak, look for an old bootrom 3Gs. You'll have an untethered jailbreak within a few days. If you're wanting to play graphically intensive games on it, get the 3Gs. If you're wanting to browse the internet, get the iPod. If you're wanting to use it for media playback, get the 3Gs.
 

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If you're wanting to jailbreak, look for an old bootrom 3Gs. You'll have an untethered jailbreak within a few days. If you're wanting to play graphically intensive games on it, get the 3Gs. If you're wanting to browse the internet, get the iPod. If you're wanting to use it for media playback, get the 3Gs.
So the 3GS' PowerVR is a better graphics option?
 

Goftrey

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Start hoping that you have one made before November of 2009. Because you'll have a hard to find old bootrom 3Gs.
From what I've read if I have an old Bootrom 3Gs I'll be able to have an untethered jailbreak from the word go.

Is this correct? I'm a bit confused to be honest with you, iOS isn't my thing :p
 

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From what I've read if I have an old Bootrom 3Gs I'll be able to have an untethered jailbreak from the word go.

Is this correct? I'm a bit confused to be honest with you, iOS isn't my thing :p
Correct. The old bootrom 3Gs is the only device that will have an untethered jailbreak on iOS 4.3 and newer, forever. You'll even be able to have verbose boot and real boot logos.
 

Goftrey

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Correct. The old bootrom 3Gs is the only device that will have an untethered jailbreak on iOS 4.3 and newer, forever. You'll even be able to have verbose boot and real boot logos.
So a new Bootrom means I'll have to go tethered, it's running iOS 6 btw.
 

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So a new Bootrom means I'll have to go tethered, it's running iOS 6 btw.
Yes. Also with the old bootrom 3Gs, you don't need signed SHSH blobs. You can put any version of iOS onto it, even if you don't have the SHSH blobs for that firmware.
 

Goftrey

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Yes. Also with the old bootrom 3Gs, you don't need signed SHSH blobs. You can put any version of iOS onto it, even if you don't have the SHSH blobs for that firmware.
SHSH blobs?

How would I go about a tethered jailbreak on say I had a new bootrom 3GS?
 

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SHSH blobs are little things that Apple digitally signs every time an iOS device starting with the 3Gs is restored. They are required to restore the device and every SHSH blob is unique to that device. With iOS 3 and 4 blobs, they can be captured and given back to iTunes so that a firmware can be restored even after Apple stops signing it. Starting with iOS 5, Apple has made it a bit harder to reuse the blobs, but it is possible.

A tethered jailbreak is preformed like any other jailbreak. Except every time you restart the device, you must plug it into a computer so that it will boot.
 

Goftrey

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SHSH blobs are little things that Apple digitally signs every time an iOS device starting with the 3Gs is restored. They are required to restore the device and every SHSH blob is unique to that device. With iOS 3 and 4 blobs, they can be captured and given back to iTunes so that a firmware can be restored even after Apple stops signing it. Starting with iOS 5, Apple has made it a bit harder to reuse the blobs, but it is possible.

A tethered jailbreak is preformed like any other jailbreak. Except every time you restart the device, you must plug it into a computer so that it will boot.
So if it's a new bootrom running iOS 6 I'm buggared in terms of jailbreaking because I don't have the SHSH blobs from 5.1.1?

Thanks for your infinite patience too, appreciate it.
 

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So if it's a new bootrom running iOS 6 I'm buggared in terms of jailbreaking because I don't have the SHSH blobs from 5.1.1?

Thanks for your infinite patience too, appreciate it.
You'll still be able to do a tethered jailbreak on iOS 6. It isn't out yet, but will be shortly. There's also the chance that Cydia has cached that iPhone's SHSH blobs. Once you get it, you can use TinyUmbrella to check.
 

Goftrey

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You'll still be able to do a tethered jailbreak on iOS 6. It isn't out yet, but will be shortly. There's also the chance that Cydia has cached that iPhone's SHSH blobs. Once you get it, you can use TinyUmbrella to check.
Awesome, thanks for the info.
 

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I remember the 3gs having a lot of problems. I'd just stuck with the ipod touch 4th generation. You'll have to get a data plan if you get a 3gs too I bet. Not worth it.
 

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I remember the 3gs having a lot of problems. I'd just stuck with the ipod touch 4th generation. You'll have to get a data plan if you get a 3gs too I bet. Not worth it.
The 3Gs never had anymore problems then the iPhone 3G or iPod Touch 3/4.
 

Goftrey

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Just received the phone - working really well under iOS 6, was manufactured in week 16 of 2010, so it's a new bootrom. Also thrilled as I thought I'd have to sync it with the PC downstairs because it requires 10.7, turns out I can sync it just fine on my G5 running 10.6.3 :)

And I haven't been able to find a tethered jailbreak for iOS 6 yet, is there one out?