I know this is an iphone forum but I just wanted to share my experience with these 2 phones. So if this bothers you please use the backspace in your keyboard to read another thread. I got the hero today and been playing/using it non stop. I have read some reviews that the hero UI makes the iphones UI look old and outdated. Are they smoking toilet paper or what? After hours of using the hero I could not WAIT to get my hands on the iphone again! To make this sweet and short, here are the pros and cons. Pros: Nice screen Opens apps very fast (but read the cons below) Great speaker for music and speaker phone Nice MP3 sound through headset Great call quality Cons: Opens apps fast but once your IN the app most apps work super SLOW. UI very flaky, not smooth at all, hard to click things including things on the web. Maybe thats why they included that HUGE roller scroller? Videos look nice but they are of sync a bit with voice. Maybe because I used the videos converted for the iphone? I doubt it though, the pre played them perfectly. Browsing was OKAY but nothing compared to the iphone. The hero was SLOW opening pages even on wifi. There is much more cons including the android apps, I'm sure there are some good/great ones but to ME and the ones I did download they were not at all that nice. Pandora looked pretty nice but was slow to open and slow to switch songs. To conclude, if I had to pick the hero vs the palm pre, I would jump like a frog to get to the palm pre! If I had to choose the hero vs the iphone, well its really a no brainer. I am convinced that the only phone that will win me over from the iphone will be another iphone! The smoothness and the app store, itunes, browser, ipod and so much more makes this phone a true KILLER! So happy I own such a nice device!