iPhone 4 (4.1) with mywi + iPad 2 Wifi

[clumsythief83]

Hey guys, I'm Canadian and I'm about to buy my first iPad next week. I'm still undecided whether I should get the iPad 2 wifi or iPad 2 Wifi+3G.

The reason I wanted the 3G iPad is because of the GPS. I found it nice to be able to use it as a GPS, something I thought the Wifi only version couldn't do until I saw this on ENgadget:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/16/iphone-personal-hotspot-transmitting-gps-information-to-tethered/

Can anyone confirm that this could be done? Also, I guess that all apps using Location Services should work too? If that's the case, I guess that are no reason at all for anyone who can tethered on its iPhone? Let me know, I would love to save some $$$.

Thanks.

 

[The Bossman]

I can only confirm that as of right this second, my jail broken iPhone 4 running 4.2.1 is not playing nice and letting my iPad 2 use it's gps. I am tethering using Pdanet's Wifi hotspot though and it is working normally.

-Bossman

 

[hackthatphone]

Tetherme is $1.99. Why pay more?

 

[dmendiola]

I don't get the same result as Engadget did on their video using MyWi...I'm still on iOs 4.1 if that matters.

 

[Dav1]

Hey guys, I'm Canadian and I'm about to buy my first iPad next week. I'm still undecided whether I should get the iPad 2 wifi or iPad 2 Wifi+3G.

The reason I wanted the 3G iPad is because of the GPS. I found it nice to be able to use it as a GPS, something I thought the Wifi only version couldn't do until I saw this on ENgadget:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/16/iphone-personal-hotspot-transmitting-gps-information-to-tethered/

Can anyone confirm that this could be done? Also, I guess that all apps using Location Services should work too? If that's the case, I guess that are no reason at all for anyone who can tethered on its iPhone? Let me know, I would love to save some $$$.

Thanks.

Here in the states, AT$T has figured out a way to tell who has enabled tethering, without giving them their $40.00 extra per month... Not sure who your ISP is but do you really believe if AT$T can do it that your cellphone provider can't or won't before long?

From what I've read, with the 3G you get a real GPS, not an AGPS. I know that my 1 gen iPad 3G seems to be able to figure out where it is without the DATA plan enable, and with a significant amount of more accuracy than my girlfriends iPhone 4 can...

 

[barrett14]

Here in the states, AT$T has figured out a way to tell who has enabled tethering, without giving them their $40.00 extra per month... Not sure who your ISP is but do you really believe if AT$T can do it that your cellphone provider can't or won't before long?

From what I've read, with the 3G you get a real GPS, not an AGPS. I know that my 1 gen iPad 3G seems to be able to figure out where it is without the DATA plan enable, and with a significant amount of more accuracy than my girlfriends iPhone 4 can...

so you're saying if you jailbreak your iphone to enable tethering for free, AT&T will know you did it and come down on you? I have heard others they have been tethering for free without any problems? I am debating whether or not to jailbreak to do this because I don't want to give up my unlimited data plan.

 

[Dav1]

It has been reported that AT&T is sending this text message;

"AT&T Free Msg: Did you know tethering your Smartphone to a computer requires a tethering plan? Pls call 888-860-6789 for details or visit att.com/dataplans."

Followed with this email;

Dear [Customer],

We've noticed your service plan may need updating.

Many AT&T customers use their smartphones as a broadband connection for other devices, like laptops, netbooks or other smartphones– a practice commonly known as tethering. Tethering can be an efficient way for our customers to enjoy the benefits of AT&T's mobile broadband network and use more than one device to stay in touch with important people and information. To take advantage of this feature, we require that in addition to a data plan, you also have a tethering plan.

Our records show that you use this capability, but are not subscribed to our tethering plan.

If you would like to continue tethering, please log into your account online at Cell Phones and Cell Phone Plans - Wireless from AT&T, or call us at 1-888-860-6789 Monday - Friday, 7 a.m. - 9 p.m. CST or Saturday, 8 a.m. - 7 p.m. CST, by March 27, 2011 to sign up for DataPro 4GB for Smartphone Tethering.
Here are details on the plan:

DataPro 4GB for Smartphone Tethering
• $45 per month
(this gives you 4GB in total, combining both your smartphone data plan for $25 and the tethering feature, $20)
• $10 per each additional GB thereafter, added automatically as needed
• Mobile Hotspot capabilities are included for compatible Smartphones

If we don't hear from you, we'll plan to automatically enroll you into DataPro 4GB after March 27, 2011. The new plan – whether you sign up on your own or we automatically enroll you – will replace your current smartphone data plan, including if you are on an unlimited data plan.

If you discontinue tethering, no changes to your current plan will be required.

It's easy to track your usage throughout the month so there are no bill surprises. For example, we send you free text messages when you reach 65, 90, and 100 percent of your plan's threshold. If you would like to monitor your account more closely, go towww.att.com/dataplans to learn about other ways to track your data usage.

As a reminder, our smartphone data plans also include unlimited usage of Wi-Fi at no additional charge. AT&T smartphone customers can use Wi-Fi at home or on-the-go at any one of our more than 23,000 U.S. hotspots already included in your data plan.

Thank you for bringing your account up to date. We appreciate the opportunity to continue to serve your mobile broadband needs.

Sincerely,

AT&T

 

[huskerchad]

It does NOT work for me tethering over bluetooth with built-in hotspot functionality. If GPS is important enough to you, you really should buy the 3G model. As mentioned, the GPS works even if you don't have a data connection.

 

[HA5TY]

It has been reported that AT&T is sending this text message;



Followed with this email;

Do u tether to ur laptop?

I only tether to my iPad and I havent gotten the text. I wonder if maybe AT&T can't tell the difference between an iPad and iPhone.

 

[Dav1]

Do u tether to ur laptop?

I only tether to my iPad and I havent gotten the text. I wonder if maybe AT&T can't tell the difference between an iPad and iPhone.

My guess is AT&T is bringing this features in, in waves... It would make sense that this detection feature cost AT&T money, that they enable it in stages, where they are most congested first.

Then again AT&T also plays favorites as well, so perhaps if you qualify as a favorite you get this warning, if you don't you simply find your data plan changed at some point, and if you don't like it so what? AT&T doesn't actually need me, or perhaps you either?

 

[Heavyhitter504]

the forum at modmyi has a theory that att is just going for the users that are going overboard with their data usage per month

 

[Mystikal]

the forum at modmyi has a theory that att is just going for the users that are going overboard with their data usage per month

That would make sense. There's no need to force people to a tethering plan if they are under 5gb / month.

 

[mamba]

hm

I will buy 3g+wifi. Who knows when you can need internet.

 

[Dav1]

That would make sense. There's no need to force people to a tethering plan if they are under 5gb / month.

In my opinion that only makes sense if you have bought into this concept that AT&T cares about it's customers, and is actually attempting to put their customers needs above their own.

Now me, I see AT&T as a business out to make money as job #1, they have an opportunity to make $20.00 or more dollars each month, and I believe they will do it... {shrug} I just don't see AT&T caring all that much about me.

I guess we will see in the coming months just who is or is not right....

I certainly hope you prove to be correct!

 

[Dmunjal]

They are a public for-profit corporation. What else would you have them do but maximize profits? Apple does the same thing.

 

[The Bossman]

Well, I have not yet gotten any text or e-mail from AT&T, I have been tethering now since the 3gs came out, and on thru the transition to the iphone 4.

If they wish to send me that note, then i will wipe my rear end with it. I SIGNED a legal and binding document, one year ago that states that I have an UNLIMITED data plan. Just because their bloodsucking lawyers have revamped a contract, does not mean I will bow down to them. Let them try to charge me for ANY F&@#$ng thing i do on my UNLIMITED data plan.

Scumbag leeches.

/rant off

-The Bossman

 

[shareef777]

I have MyWi on my iPhone 4 (4.2.1). Tethers perfectly with my iPad 2 (wifi) over Bluetooth. It's easy to connect as well. After initial pairing, just go to the Bluetooth settings on the iPad and choose the phone. The wifi signal status changes to a chain type icon. Maps show the detailed spot instead of the approximate blue circle given when connected to wifi only.

Every workday I get on the train and connect my iPad to the iPhone while the iPhone remains in my pocket. I constantly use the Internet while tethered for the duration of the train ride (at least as long as I have an ATT signal). By the time I get to the office and connect the iPad to wifi, I notice that my iPhone battery had only dropped by 5%. Awesome!

Btw, there is one shortfall. Regardless if the iPhone or iPad have a wifi connection, as long as the iPad's Bluetooth is paired to the iPhone it will remain using the 3G signal. I work around this by disabling the iPad BT when I no longer need it (and re-enable when needed for anything). When enabling BT, it does not auto connect to the iPhone.

 

[cc1013]

I have MyWi on my iPhone 4 (4.2.1). Tethers perfectly with my iPad 2 (wifi) over Bluetooth. It's easy to connect as well. After initial pairing, just go to the Bluetooth settings on the iPad and choose the phone. The wifi signal status changes to a chain type icon. Maps show the detailed spot instead of the approximate blue circle given when connected to wifi only.

Every workday I get on the train and connect my iPad to the iPhone while the iPhone remains in my pocket. I constantly use the Internet while tethered for the duration of the train ride (at least as long as I have an ATT signal). By the time I get to the office and connect the iPad to wifi, I notice that my iPhone battery had only dropped by 5%. Awesome!

Btw, there is one shortfall. Regardless if the iPhone or iPad have a wifi connection, as long as the iPad's Bluetooth is paired to the iPhone it will remain using the 3G signal. I work around this by disabling the iPad BT when I no longer need it (and re-enable when needed for anything). When enabling BT, it does not auto connect to the iPhone.

To connect via Bluetooth, do both your iPhone and iPad need to have MyWi installed? I believe two separate licenses would need to be purchased for that, but could be wrong.

I currently tether my iPhone 4 to my iPad 2 with MyWi via wifi. Just curious about the benefits/drawbacks of connecting through bluetooth instead of wifi. It sounds like GPS is the main difference.

Would love to hear your experience.

 

[shareef777]

To connect via Bluetooth, do both your iPhone and iPad need to have MyWi installed? I believe two separate licenses would need to be purchased for that, but could be wrong.

I currently tether my iPhone 4 to my iPad 2 with MyWi via wifi. Just curious about the benefits/drawbacks of connecting through bluetooth instead of wifi. It sounds like GPS is the main difference.

Would love to hear your experience.

Nothing needs to be done to the iPad other then pairing it with the iPhone. No mywi, or jail breaking needed (on the iPad).

 

[smartboy87]

are you using itether??

Nothing needs to be done to the iPad other then pairing it with the iPhone. No mywi, or jail breaking needed (on the iPad).

 

[huskerchad]

are you using itether??

The iPad 2 can connect to the native bluetooth tethering on the iPhone. Neither device needs to be jailbroken for this to work. Of course you have many more options if you are willing to jailbreak one or the other.

 

[cc1013]

Nothing needs to be done to the iPad other then pairing it with the iPhone. No mywi, or jail breaking needed (on the iPad).

Thanks! I will have to try that out!

 

[clumsythief83]

The iPad 2 can connect to the native bluetooth tethering on the iPhone. Neither device needs to be jailbroken for this to work. Of course you have many more options if you are willing to jailbreak one or the other.

I'm kinda confused. You are telling me that it is possible for the iPad to tether on an iPhone 4 via bluetooth? So what's wrong with AT&T sending text to users with jailbroken iPhones? I'm from Canada and I doubt that my provider (Fido) would do the same.

 

[huskerchad]

I'm kinda confused. You are telling me that it is possible for the iPad to tether on an iPhone 4 via bluetooth? So what's wrong with AT&T sending text to users with jailbroken iPhones? I'm from Canada and I doubt that my provider (Fido) would do the same.

I don't know if it's clear yet exactly who AT&T is sending that message to, but it appears to be high-volume users that they suspect of tethering without having a tethering plan on their accounts. What I'm saying is that you can tether your iPad to your iPhone in a completely approved way that requires no jailbreaking on either device. With AT&T you must pay extra for the bluetooth tethering capability. I don't know if that is the same for your carrier.