iPhone (4.7" & 5.5") and iPhone Pro (5.8" & 6.5") ?

tazuki

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With the rumor of a 6.5" iPhone, will Apple finally ditch numbers on the iPhone naming and start to have (like MacBooks) simply two models of the iPhone (4.7" & 5.5") and two models of the iPhone Pro (5.8" & 6.5") ?
 

michael9891

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When has a 6.5" been rumoured to appear? Let's get this years' iPhone releases out of the way (which there's still so much to be decided on) before we start guessing what's happening next year.
 
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Infiniverse48

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There will never be an iPhone Pro. It's the worst marketing terminology that you could possibly give iPhone.

What is far more likely going on with the iPhone? It's pretty simple, they did not have enough supply of components, specifically OLED displays to create two different models, and therefore only one model this year. Because the components are currently much more expensive, the iPhone 7s and 7s Plus will be released alongside this iPhone to provide the cheaper options and also create enough supply.

Next year there will likely be 2 OLED models, and while they might again make 2 LCD models, I find it incredibly unlikely because the price for the OLED models will likely have fallen, and the demand would be insanely high on the OLED models. The 7s and 7s Plus would drop in price to supply another year.

OLED iPhone: very expensive due to much more expensive components with lower yields. Other products Apple has drastically dropped the price of within 1 year of release: MacBook Pro with Retina display; iMac with Retina display
 

Givmeabrek

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iPad Pro, MacBook Pro, iPhone Pro. Worst marketing terminology? Seems like it is working to me....
 
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Infiniverse48

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Why is it any worse than iPad Pro or MacBook Pro?
Those are devices that can be tailored to Pro users. The iPhone cannot. The iPhone is simply a device for all human beings, and there is nothing that can be added that would make it some device that Pros would be after more than they are with its ordinary functionality.

Marketing is about attention. iPhone Pro doesn't grab the attention of many because they'll just think oh it's a faster iPhone. Apple needs a term that draws attention to this new device so people will think of the design or feature changes.

iPhone (something related to features or design)
 
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joeblow7777

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Those are devices that can be tailored to Pro users. The iPhone cannot. The iPhone is simply a device for all human beings, and there is nothing that can be added that would make it some device that Pros would be after more than they are with its ordinary functionality.

Marketing is about attention. iPhone Pro doesn't grab the attention of many because they'll just think oh it's a faster iPhone. Apple needs a term that draws attention to this new device so people will think of the design or feature changes.

iPhone (something related to features or design)
What does "tailored to pro users" really even mean? The needs of different professionals vary drastically. As far as I can tell, the term "Pro" as far as tech goes just means the more expensive/premium and feature-packed model, which sounds like a description of this year's flagship iPhone compared to the 7s that it is expected to launch alongside.
 
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What does "tailored to pro users" really even mean? The needs of different professionals vary drastically. As far as I can tell, the term "Pro" as far as tech goes just means the more expensive/premium and feature-packed model, which sounds like a description of this year's flagship iPhone compared to the 7s that it is expected to launch alongside.
The MacBook Pro for example or iMac Pro or Mac Pro are specifically for professionals. Apple specifically touts their directionality toward professionals. 'Pro' is a distinguished marketing term from Apple to mean a device that is more capable for pro work. Like the iPad Pro has Pencil support and their drive to more enterprise related capabilities.
 
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joeblow7777

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The MacBook Pro for example or iMac Pro or Mac Pro are specifically for professionals. Apple specifically touts their directionality toward professionals. 'Pro' is a distinguished marketing term from Apple to mean a device that is more capable for pro work. Like the iPad Pro has Pencil support and their drive to more enterprise related capabilities.
For a professional what?
Artist? Lawyer? Educator? Athlete? Hair Dresser? Healthcare Worker? Writer? Chef? Photographer?

People keep saying that Pro devices are geared toward "professionals" as if "professional" means something specific. As I said, it's just the model with the most power and features, which can apply to a phone as much as anything else, especially in an age where a smartphone is a useful tool in many professions.
 

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For a professional what?
Artist? Lawyer? Educator? Athlete? Hair Dresser? Healthcare Worker? Writer? Chef? Photographer?

People keep saying that Pro devices are geared toward "professionals" as if "professional" means something specific. As I said, it's just the model with the most power and features, which can apply to a phone as much as anything else, especially in an age where a smartphone is a useful tool in many professions.
The MacBook and iPad Pro models are marketed as such because they're deemed to have the processing power and design to be used in a professional context - whatever that might entail.

I can barely even bring myself to type the words iPhone Pro because it would be such a duff marketing decision on the part of Apple. The whole idea of a phone is that it is designed to seamlessly handle business and pleasure. If anything, phones aimed at business, corporate, pro (call it what you will) strip back the 'pleasure' features. By branding it Pro, Apple would almost be saying, "no, this isn't for you" to the vast majority of its consumers.
 
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TheRealAlex

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With the rumor of a 6.5" iPhone, will Apple finally ditch numbers on the iPhone naming and start to have (like MacBooks) simply two models of the iPhone (4.7" & 5.5") and two models of the iPhone Pro (5.8" & 6.5") ?
You are Right and Wrong. Apple buys its OLED Displays from the Samsung Note line. The upcomming iPhone 8 is using the 5.8 OLED Except with 0.1" Display more exposed due to less Bezels.
The new Samsung Note 8 uses and 6.3" OLED Display. Since there have been ZERO leaks of an 8 PLUS Size I expect Next years iPhone 8s Plus will feature a curved edge 6.3" OLED display sourced from Samsung.

This year Apple is duping everyone into buying a small 5.8" Display iPhone but since its has minimal bezels and No Home button its the same size as the ladylike 4.7" iPhone 7
 

michael9891

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This year Apple is duping everyone into buying a small 5.8" Display iPhone but since its has minimal bezels and No Home button its the same size as the ladylike 4.7" iPhone 7
Why are Apple "duping" people? They're releasing a phone which will undoubtedly be better than the current iPhones. What they chose to release next year is irrelevant. You either buy one this year or you don't.
 

BigDO

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There will never be an iPhone Pro. It's the worst marketing terminology that you could possibly give iPhone.

What is far more likely going on with the iPhone? It's pretty simple, they did not have enough supply of components, specifically OLED displays to create two different models, and therefore only one model this year. Because the components are currently much more expensive, the iPhone 7s and 7s Plus will be released alongside this iPhone to provide the cheaper options and also create enough supply.

Next year there will likely be 2 OLED models, and while they might again make 2 LCD models, I find it incredibly unlikely because the price for the OLED models will likely have fallen, and the demand would be insanely high on the OLED models. The 7s and 7s Plus would drop in price to supply another year.

OLED iPhone: very expensive due to much more expensive components with lower yields. Other products Apple has drastically dropped the price of within 1 year of release: MacBook Pro with Retina display; iMac with Retina display
Spot on.
 

craigio85

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You are Right and Wrong. Apple buys its OLED Displays from the Samsung Note line. The upcomming iPhone 8 is using the 5.8 OLED Except with 0.1" Display more exposed due to less Bezels.
The new Samsung Note 8 uses and 6.3" OLED Display. Since there have been ZERO leaks of an 8 PLUS Size I expect Next years iPhone 8s Plus will feature a curved edge 6.3" OLED display sourced from Samsung.

This year Apple is duping everyone into buying a small 5.8" Display iPhone but since its has minimal bezels and No Home button its the same size as the ladylike 4.7" iPhone 7
Here we are with that 'ladylike' thing again.

And Apple aren't duping anybody. The product they launch will launch with a spec-sheet. Anybody can review this and make their own informed decision on whether to buy. If somebody wants a larger chassis (though I can't imagine why they would given the screen size of the iPhone 8 will be comparable to the 7 Plus), they are perfectly at liberty to look at alternative products from other manufacturers or hold out for a larger version following next year.
 

joeblow7777

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Here we are with that 'ladylike' thing again.

And Apple aren't duping anybody. The product they launch will launch with a spec-sheet. Anybody can review this and make their own informed decision on whether to buy. If somebody wants a larger chassis (though I can't imagine why they would given the screen size of the iPhone 8 will be comparable to the 7 Plus), they are perfectly at liberty to look at alternative products from other manufacturers or hold out for a larger version following next year.
He can complain all day long for the next 13 months about the ladylike iPhone and how Apple have duped everyone. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be enjoying the best iPhone ever produced. :D
He can always put it in a really bulky case if that makes him feel like more of a man. :D
 
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