iPhone 4 and 5s-- What can my work see?

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  1. pixep0p macrumors newbie

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    I had an iPhone 4 but recently (3 weeks ago) switched to the iPhone 5s. I never used a company-bought phone, I just bring my phone to work and log-on the company wifi. My employer hasn't installed any tracking device/application on my phone. Obviously, I'm aware that my internet history can be traced. I'm just wondering about my iMessages. I know also that Apple claims to encrypt these messages, but would the IT department/my employer be able to see iMessages sent to another employee logged on the same company wifi?

    I also use 3G sometimes and send messages to a fellow employee on company wifi. Can this be traced as well? Thanks
     
  2. MonkeySee.... macrumors 68040

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    I don't think they could trace your messages but there is nothing stopping them asking for the phone right there and then which at that point you're screwed if they go through your phone.

    How is the phone backed up?
     
  3. pixep0p thread starter macrumors newbie

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    The phone's backed up on iCloud. Does that change anything? And is Apple's encryption legitimate?
     
  4. dictoresno macrumors 601

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    is the phone set up through your company IT department using enterprise software and using internal security certificates?

    if so, they potentially can read everything. is the apple ID its logged in under your own or a company email?

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4486
     
  5. pixep0p thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Enterprise software? I don't know about that. I just know that it's under the HP wifi connector thing. Also, the email is my personal email, not company email.

    But they really can't track it if it's under 3G though, right?
     
  6. AJAAY macrumors regular

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    Since it's a company owned phone. Nothing stops them from taking it and viewing all it's contents on the spot.

    A general rule to follow is if it's company property. Just do only work related stuff with and on it.
     
  7. pixep0p thread starter macrumors newbie

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    It's not a company owned phone. It's a personal phone logged on to the company's wifi. Does that make a difference?

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    The phone was set up privately. I just log on to my company's wifi that's password protected. I know they use some sort of HP thing for wifi.
     
  8. dictoresno macrumors 601

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    this has nothing really to do with the wifi, so forget that for now. however, any proper IT department should be able to see what traffic is sent over their network, IP addresses, websites and possibly content. which is why you never browse porn or other NSFW material over company wifi. you never know who is sniffing packets.

    your real concern is if the company uses enterprise software, with corresponding certificates. read the link i sent you.

    basically, your company phone could be two things. one, the company hands you the phone and says "here, set it up however you would like". or two, is comes already set up with business related apps, resources, email, etc. if so, you may have a trusted security certificate profile installed on the device that links/syncs it with your company network and computer systems. through this, your IT department is able to troubleshoot your device, push important updates and documents or filter/monitor messages, emails, phone calls, browsing history etc. you may want to ask someone in your company IT department to see what type of work phone it is. you may have 'agreed" to terms of use that it sure sounds like youre not familiar with. again, you need to ask and have it verified.

    they could either be reading absolutely nothing, to almost everything. theres no way for us to know.
     
  9. pixep0p thread starter macrumors newbie

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    It's not a company phone... It's a personal phone that I just use at work using work wi-fi. I am sure that there are no programs installed.
     
  10. AJAAY macrumors regular

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    In that case they can definitely see the websites you visit. But cannot read your messages. If you really want to be safe, just use your data network instead.
     
  11. pixep0p thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thanks, but I'm talking about iMessages (that pass through the server) and not text messages. Would they be able to read those? I know texts won't.
     
  12. dictoresno macrumors 601

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    They cannot read your iMessages, as they are encrypted. All they can see is website traffic such as files downloaded or websites visited. Emails and iMessages cannot be read.
     
  13. abz1981 macrumors 65816

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    No need to worry about this. I mean why be worried unless your a terrorist or communicating illegal information via imessages. Just relax, Apple said Imessages are encrypted.
     
  14. Mrbobb macrumors 601

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    Anything that goes through the company's Internet firewall and not encrypted, they can see.

    There are always back stabbers and people who you fall off the favor from so if you get into the habit of badmouthing the company, or being just politically incorrect and potentially making the company looks bad, with those folks, eventually crap is gonna come back to bite you.
     

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