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Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by BobHail, Jun 30, 2010.
That´s what I think.
better be the case
Bob, great opinion with nothing to back it up.
You don't like 7 year old case designs?
But isn't that unlikely as the iPhone division has hardly any contact with the Mac Pro division anyway? Or do you mean public relations?
itoys in general are delaying the Mac Pro
They just forgot.
Its not like this is the first time apple has delayed, the MacPro. They seem to be stretching the product cycle on this.
It seems they're putting more effort, resources, and money on their iToys then on computers. The MacPro and mini are the extreme examples, both tend have extended periods of time between updates.
As an owner of a 2009 Mac Pro I really really can't see what the fuss is about.
If you NEED a Mac Pro, BUY ONE.
How are they going to change the design? It's pretty much perfect as it is.
All you could possibly get is:
1. 6 Core CPUs at the top end costing even MORE (possibly a shove along of the CPUs but I dont think the CPUs have dropped enough for that)
2. 8 HDD bays/Addition of SSD bays
3. 5870/GTX470 GPU
Case changes: NONE.
I bought a MDD G4 a month before they upgraded them, I was annoyed but then that machine then went on to last me 5 years!
You are waiting for things that will never come.
Besides how would a mobile device effect a computer? The mobile engineers are a separate team from the desktop engineers. It's like saying as a aero engineer I could then go and do civil engineering. I could in theory but i'd not be very good at it.
Not necessarily true, especially with smart phones becoming smarter - bordering on the edge of being full-fledged computers in your pocket.
A computer engineer can equally work on a desktop device and a portable device. You can get specialised people on the team, but in the field of computing, it's not unreasonable to move a team to a completely different environment - it can be flexible that way.
This is especially true with software. IIRC, they borred developers to work on iOS 4 from other divisions.
On a side note, I only own an iMac. Early 06' model. Lasting a couple months over 4 years now, and I'm a software engineer who runs his machines into the ground. I want a Mac Pro but it's the price vs it's age that's stopping me - consider me money conscious Also keeping in mind i'm from Australia, where the price of our consumer electronics is bloated compared to America.
Apple are a HUGE company, I accept software teams can move around as its all basically the same language. However hardware (esp antenna engineers!) will not have anything to add to Mac Pro development apart from bluetooth/wireless. If they did then they need to be sacked because the bluetooth in the 2009 Mac Pro is shocking.
I'd put money on Apple having the next gen Mac Pro up and running in their labs, along with the next gen iMac and the starting points of the new Mac Mini.
They haven't released a updated Mac Pro because there really isn't a HUGE reason to do so. I suspect in a few months time there will be a silent change with an addition of 6 core CPUs and a upgraded GPU.
What's the fuss about? We're talking about a 16 month old system that costs EXACTLY the same amount of money as it did when it was release. 16 months is like 8 years in technology age. It's still a great system, but it's past its prime, so obviously people are apprehensive about dropping several thousand dollars on one.
I doubt the Mac Pro release has anything to do with the iPhone antenna debacle. Apple appears to be releasing Mac updates in the middle of the month. June was the Mac Mini. I suspect July will be the MB Air or Mac Pro.
At this point you'd think Apple would release anything they had just to get some good publicity and the attention away from the iPhone antenna.
And here we go again...
Among other reasons, resale value.
You have any proof of that?
You obviously don't know the price points of the new chips. If you look at Intel's estimated price points here, you will see that the price difference between the Xeon 5550 and 5650 is only $38. And the difference between the 5570 and the 5670 is only $54.
So the starting point of both the quad-core CPUs and six-core CPUs are extremely close. Sure, the price of the quad-cores that are in the current MPs have gone down, but has the price of the MP gone down? Didn't think so.
So saying that the price will be way more expensive just because of the new CPUs is total crap. So when they do put dual six-core CPUs in the new MP, the price won't be much different, if at all, than the current 8-core MP.
Now, the price could change because of something other than CPU, like GPU, RAM, HDD, or new case design. But nobody really knows. But we do know at least one thing, the price difference between the old and new CPUs is minimal and will not cause a huge price increase.
I think the delay in Mac Pro is because Steve's gardener ran over his favorite petunias and that threw Jobs into such a FUNK that he delayed the Pro.
As much proof to back up my theory as any of the other drivel people are posting.
love the title!
I have a MDD G4 still running solely as iTunes/Apple TV streamer... But I need something with b***s...
I think that your mom is delaying the Mac Pros. Both our opinions are equally valid, I think.
I think the backed-up toilet in Building B is behind the delay personally.
What has arrived since the MP2009 launch? 6 core processors and new GPUs, nothing else!?
The latter of which you can upgrade as a MP2009 owner when it happens, the former gives you 2/4 extra cores and 4/8 extra threads, but if you need it to do work now and it takes 2 months for Apple to release the 6 core chips then the productivity from the extra 2 months of having a Mac Pro 2009 surely pays for itself?
As for resale value, I was watching the prices of the 2008 Mac Pro and they dropped 10% give or take, fair amount but something that I wouldn't take into account when purchasing a Mac Pro...
Ugh not another one of these threads...
1. There IS NO DELAY in the Mac Pro release. Apple has not announced its release, meaning if they did not announce it, how can it be "delayed".
2. Incase you haven't seen Gizmodo, or Engadget, or CNet, or countless other tech sites there is a slight bottleneck in getting the chips that are expected to be in the Mac Pro to companies.
Of course the usual "if you need it, buy it" saying still stands.
But are you blind?! Don't you know that computer components change (usually get cheaper) almost daily?
The price of a 640GB HDD is $55. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=404255&SID=146225
The cost and availability of RAM is more favorable, 8GB for $285, and apple wants to charge $250 to go from 3GB to 8GB, 5GB more.http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/85MP3E2M08GK/
Now multiply that with the inflated cost to upgrade the CPUs on the 2009 MPs, multiple HDDs, dual optical drives, and the crappy/expensive video cards, it's a total bad deal for us and a great deal for apple.
Every single person that has responded to your posts say the same thing, but yet you still march on....
The current MacPro is NOT a good use of resources for what you are getting. Period.
Oh, and I too think that it's the antenna problems, that has delayed the MP.
The local Mac store here (private owned, not a real Apple store), doesn't even have a single MP on the floor!
Pretty much. If it isn't portable, Apple couldn't give less of a crap.
May I kindly remind you that the Mac Pro also has handles