Iphone 4 durability

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Phycoduck, Aug 23, 2010.

  1. Phycoduck macrumors regular


    Sep 18, 2008
    This is probably said before, but i'm not happy with the durability with my Iphone 4.

    I bought this on 24th June for 600 big onces, and kept it in a apple bumper case. Then added a 'all over' Incredible shield two weeks later because the metal rim tarnished from specks of duct getting in the bumper.

    'Created from our own alloy, then forged to be five times stronger than standard steel'... but dust can scratch it?????

    Lost the rear shield on saturday night, but now see a small sliver mark on the back.

    'Chemically strengthened to be 20 times stiffer and 30 times harder than plastic, the glass is ultradurable and more scratch resistant than ever'... Not for me.

    I'm not sure if it's the glass which scratches or the oleophobic coating. A few friends had scratched theirs on the first day with keys or coins in the same pocket as iphone.

    Don't get me wrong, i still love the iphone. But apple had gone to all this trouble on making the Iphone very strong out of space age materials, and then i have to spend more money hiding it from the world because i don't want to damage it.

    Has anyone else notices this?

  2. kernkraft macrumors 68020


    Jun 25, 2009
    Have you tried to drop it yet? That so-called 'gorilla glass' shatters like it's made of the cheapest kind of glass.

    I'm afraid, that is how Apple is reinventing the phone again. Again. Quality control at Apple is having a tough time. Luckily for you, using a bumper is acceptable or dropping calls is not a big deal.

    Anyway, enough from the negativity, why don't you return the phone to Apple and ask their opinion about their claims? I'd love to see somebody writing to Apple about these issues. We haven't got any of those "get over it/this is a non issue/you are holding it wrong/not gonna happen/stay tuned" emails for weeks.
  3. jasonforisrael macrumors regular

    Jan 8, 2008
    the phone is super scratchable and incredibly breakable.

    baby it, case it, etc.
  4. phenoplastic macrumors member

    May 30, 2010
    "keys or coins in the same pocket as iphone"

    not always a good idea...
  5. alangrehan macrumors regular

    Jan 15, 2008
    I don't really think it matters too much,

    Cars, Phones, iPods, Watches, Jewellry...

    They all will show wear and tear from normal use... Unless your phone is made from diamond it will scratch...

    I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it... In 2 years you'll probably have a new one anyway! :rolleyes:
  6. Block macrumors 6502a


    Jun 28, 2007
    You'll probably replace it in a year so even if it breaks there's a new one around the corner.
  7. lvyelion macrumors member

    Sep 27, 2008
    durability is never associated with Apple products. They are made with cheap material and parts. designed to be replaced in a year or two, and with deliberately crippled functionalities, otherwise how can Apple sell a new generation to existing customers every year?

    Dumb Nokia, thats why they are in trouble!
  8. colder macrumors member

    Aug 10, 2010
    Not to nitpick, but how "strong" a metal is and how scratch-resistant it is are two different things. Scratch resistance, tensile strength, yield strength, ultimate strength... these are all different things. For scratch resistance diamond would be ideal, for yield strength you'd want kevlar, for ultimate strength carbon or silicon.

    Often steel is mixed with other materials to create an alloy with a property mix that is adequate for the application while keeping costs low.

    All metals are compromises.
  9. D1G1T4L macrumors 68000


    Jun 26, 2007
    Savannah, GA
    Purchased an otterbox defender and have put my phone through some pretty harsh conditions yet when I take it out of the case it still looks new. Would highly suggest looking into the otterbox line of cases.
  10. wirelessmacuser macrumors 68000


    Dec 20, 2009
    Brilliant honesty! Thank you.
  11. wirelessmacuser macrumors 68000


    Dec 20, 2009
    + 1

    I find Otterbox ugly ... Yet an excellent product that must be ugly to get the job done... :)

    I have several.
  12. PrincessMelody macrumors member

    Aug 17, 2010
    Charleston, SC
    I'm just using a Pixelskin HD case and a screen protector, and hoping for the best until the next one...;)
  13. DravenGSX macrumors 6502a

    Aug 20, 2008
    My phone has never shared a pocket. I took off the bumper because I hated it and the back of my phone is scratched to smitherines.

    I'm assuming it's the oleophobic coating that's scratching and not the glass.

    Very fragile. Oh well.
  14. Compile 'em all macrumors 601

    Compile 'em all

    Apr 6, 2005
    It seems I have to go into every thread complaining about the iPhone to post this:

    If you have an concerns about the iPhone, voice your opinions straight to Apple here


    You can always email sjobs@apple.com as well.

    Just be polite and point out clearly what you think.
  15. Interstella5555 macrumors 603


    Jun 30, 2008
    Yup, 5 or 6 times with no case and it's still flawless. How can Apple prevent you from being a klutz? I mean, if I break my TV with a wiimote who's fault is it really? (Hint - It's not Nintendo's)
  16. terraphantm macrumors 68040

    Jun 27, 2009
    The iPhone 4's durability does worry me, but so far I haven't dropped it. I do think the original iPhone was a more robust design, but I've seen plenty of screens crack on those. And the 3G and 3GS also had easy to crack screens. The issue with the 4 is the back is made of glass too now. At least the back is incredibly easy to replace on the 4 compared to other models
  17. aohus macrumors 68000

    Apr 4, 2010
    i heard a lot of horror stories about the fragility of the ip4. for me, there are many occasions where my phone falls from my lap while driving (goes into the hole next to the armrest, you know what i mean).

    it seems like a requirement to have a case for the ip4, after all, the exterior is made of GLASS!

    im currently a Droid X owner and let me tell you, the DX has much more durability than the ip4.

    ip4 seems like a high maintenance girl compared to that of the durable DX. The DX has rubberized exterior, so its not easy to stain or scratch. I have actually dropped the DX accidentally (from not so high though) and there has not been one scratch thus far.

    based on the fragility of the ip4, it seems as though the engineers took into account that most users would put a case over it, which is fail imo.
  18. Irish Rose macrumors 65816

    May 29, 2010
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    Get an OtterBox case, and don't worry so much.
  19. lilo777 macrumors 603

    Nov 25, 2009
    Maybe it's because it's actually not a gorilla glass? As I understand, Gorilla Glass is made by Corning and iPhone uses something else (home grown glass - chimpanzee glass?)
  20. GamecockMac macrumors 6502a


    Oct 20, 2005
    Columbia, SC
    And you know that Apple doesn't use Gorilla Glass, how exactly? Corning recently stated that they are not allowed to reveal the identity of some of their customers. But hey, don't let that slow down the steady stream of FUD we've come to expect from you. :rolleyes:
  21. lilo777 macrumors 603

    Nov 25, 2009
    In other words, there is absolutely no proof that Apple uses Gorilla Glass. That's exactly what I said. People should not say it's Gorilla Glass when there is absolutely no indications that it is.

    And if you want how I know, read this article: "According to 21st Century Business Herald, a Chinese newspaper, the problems all stem from a Chinese factory by the name of Lens Technology, which is apparently responsible for transforming fine raw glass into the majority of the iPhone glass panels that are currently out there (no mention of Corning here either).

    A rather boring and bland name for a glass manufacturer – Lens Technology isn’t exactly a household name to the average gadget consumer. It is the manufacturing company that many top brands such as Huawei, Lenovo, Motorola, Nokia, Samsung, and many more have been going to since it’s launch in July 1993. The company’s set up sever plants all over China and most recently in Liuyang, Hunan that currently houses about 14,000 workers. Although it’s still merely a faction of Foxconn’s 400,000 employees in Shenzen, Lens’ recent intake of about 7,000 “post-90s” workers led to many disciplinary issues. Although this still wasn’t the reason for the white iPhone 4 delay."

    SO, who is spreading FUD exactly?
  22. Megalobyte macrumors 6502a

    Dec 30, 2007
    Leaving drop protection aside for a moment, one look and feel will tell you that for a cell phone, the ip4 is hardly cheaply made. It's actually a surprisingly well made phone, to suggest it's cheaply made for a phone makes you look silly to me, sorry.
  23. lilo777 macrumors 603

    Nov 25, 2009
    It looks good but breaks way too easy. Perhaps if Apple was willing to pay a little more for Gorilla Glass the phone would not be as brittle.
  24. GamecockMac macrumors 6502a


    Oct 20, 2005
    Columbia, SC
    Oh, well if 21st Century Business Herald said it, then it must be true. Everyone knows that publication is an infallible and well-respected source of tech news. I mean, they've been around since 2001, and actually moved from publishing weekly to 5 times a week in 2008, and have a daily circulation of 762,000 in a nation of 1.3 billion people. :rolleyes:

    In other words, there is absolutely no proof that Apple doesn't use Gorilla Glass.

    On Corning's own website (http://www.corning.com/gorillaglass/devices.aspx) the following companies are listed as using this product in handheld and PC applications:

    SK Telesys
    Motion Computing

    Followed by this disclaimer: "Corning’s Gorilla glass has been designed into more than 100 models by 19 major brands. Due to confidentiality agreements, there are certain customers we are not allowed to talk about externally."

    So there are ELEVEN other brands using their glass. And of the possibilities, who has a well-known penchant for being secretive about their components?
  25. winterny macrumors 6502

    Jul 5, 2010
    A friend of mine is a total clutz. I saw him drop his Iphone4 5 times onto a concrete floor in the span of a few hours, without a case/bumper.

    I saw my girlfriend drop her iphone4 without a case/bumper onto a concrete floor once. Her phone got a small scuff on the plastic trim around the glass, which is totally hidden by her case / bumper now (which she now uses, since the drop)

    Also, I've personally seen zero cracked screens. I've seen pictures on the internet of cracked screens, and I'll accept that it's possible if you have really bad luck and circumstances lead to it breaking in your fall, and there's a good chance if you throw it as hard as you can at the floor that it will break.

    I won't say it's impossible to break the screen by accidentally dropping it, nor will I say that I'd intentionally drop mine, but I do think it's certainly *reasonably* durable.

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