I have a coworker that is convinced the incredible is faster than the iPhone 4. I just read it has 512mb of RAM...? The A4 is clocked at 1GHz ...? 16-32GB of memory...
Who cares...comparing specs is pointless...irrelevant.
Remember, it's the interplay of hardware and software that makes it 'magical.'
I've seen the EVO 4G, Incredible, and Droid in action, and none of them appear to be as fluid and smooth as the iPhone 3GS, let alone the upcoming iPhone 4.
Until you have someone designing the hardware and software and having them fully understand each other, the sum will always be greater than its parts.
Oh great, thanks for your opinion...
How about a useful reply now. I'm going to google around and when I find them I'll post for those who are curious.
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I can agree with that but for a 50 yr old man that HATES apple I'd love to show him actual specs of the new iPhone.
Thanks for your opinion.
I'm going to google around and when I find them I'll post for those who are curious.
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I doubt that very seriously.Both have 1Ghz chip (though I think A4 is better than Snapdragon), and both have 512Mb of RAM. It will come down to OS optimization and interface ... both at which, IMO, the iPhone 4 wins...
Just remember the world is round and your still trapped in a square. It took 4 generations to get customizable backgrounds and a flash not to mention half assed multitasking.
The Incredible has 512MB Ram and 1 Ghz Snapdragon processor. So hardware wise, it's comparable to the iPhone 4. But software wise, the iPhone owns the competition. Nobody but Apple can bring the greatest hardware and software in the world together in the thinnest "smartphone" on Earth. I wouldn't use an Incredible if someone paid me to. My friend has one and it's a PoS. Android was geared to be usable on any phone. iOS 4 was meant for a single piece of hardware for which it shines. Sure the Incredible may have an 8MP camera, but the pictures on iPhone 4's 5 MP camera still look better. Sure the Incredible has an 8MP camera, but pictures on the iPhone 4's 5MP camera still look better! Now that says something. Don't let companies lour you in with impressive "specs".
Chances are he hates Apple for no apparent reason, or he hates Apple because of the impression he had of their products 12 years ago. I've found with people like that...no matter what you might tell them or try to prove to them, it won't matter.
First to Do It vs. First to Do It Right
Thursday, 17 June 2010
MG Siegler, last week at TechCrunch:
During his keynote address on Monday, Apple CEO Steve Jobs noted that while Apple may not be the first to release features, they do so in a way thats the best implementation.
Many people view this as absolute ********. But what that implies is that they think Apple simply cannot get features done in time or that they will not do them for some reason. I have a hard time believing either of those is the case.
Jobs cited the iPhones cut, copy, and paste functionality as one example of Apple getting a feature right. I have to agree. For two years, everyone complained (myself included) that Apple didnt have this functionality. Could Apple have done it sooner? Of course. But would it have been half-baked? Probably. Just look at how it works on other devices or maybe I should say: look at how poorly it works on other devices compared to the iPhone.
This is the heart of the disconnect. Those who see these claims as absolute ******** are only going to see Apple as getting worse over the next few years. I got a few objections from readers after writing the following last week, regarding iOS 4 and iPhone 4 as catching up to Android:
The existence of a front-facing camera may fairly be considered a catch up feature on iPhone 4. But the ability to use the front-facing camera to actually make video calls is first on the iPhone. Thats one difference between Apple and HTC. Apple isnt going to include a hardware feature just for the sake of having it. They only include hardware for which they have compelling software to complete the experience.
The objections were based on Qik and Fring. But heres David Pogue on the front-facing-camera-equipped HTC Evo:
After two days of fiddling, downloading and uninstalling apps, manually force-quitting programs and waiting for servers to be upgraded, I finally got video calling to work sort of. Sometimes there was only audio and a black screen, sometimes only a freeze-frame; at best, the video was blocky and the audio delay absurd.
To make video calling work, you have to install an app yourself: either Fring or Qik. But we never did get Fring to work, and Qik requires people you call to press a Talk button when they want to speak. The whole thing is confusing and, to use the technical term, iffy.
Heres the test. Take some normal people, where by normal I mean people who have never heard of TechCrunch or Daring Fireball. Give them brand new still-in-the-box iPhone 4s and HTC Evos. Now ask them to make a video call to one another. With the iPhone 4, theyre going to be able to do it. The only thing thats technically confusing about FaceTime is that it only works via Wi-Fi (I think many people have little understanding of the difference between Wi-Fi and 3G data at least insofar as why a feature would work over one but not the other). Otherwise, FaceTime is as easy to use as making a regular voice call. There is no such thing as a FaceTime account you need to create or log in to. It doesnt require the installation of any third-party apps. All you need to know is that the iPhone 4 can make video calls, and that the feature is called FaceTime. And Ill bet the little instructional card inside the iPhone 4 box will make that perfectly clear.
How many normal people even know that Qik and Fring exist? Are Android users supposed to install both apps, so they can make video calls to people whove only installed one or the other?
Its not that theres anything wrong with Qik or Fring in and of themselves. Nor is it to say that Android doesnt have its own first-to-do-right features, like, say, the ability to dictate speech-to-text in any text field. Its about the mindset of the companies that made the phones. Do you include the half-baked stuff, or hold it until its fully-baked? Apple wasnt going to include a front-facing camera until they had software that made it useful in an iPhone-caliber way. HTC is happy to include a front-facing camera and leave its utility (and user experience) in the hands of third-party developers.
Android and iPhone fans will read the preceding paragraph very differently. Android fans will read it and say, Exactly give us the hardware and let developers figure out what to do with it. iPhone fans will read it and say, I cant wait to get an iPhone 4.
You really need to stay up on Android news if you gonna quote specs. The Froyo update allows apps to go onto the SD card of Android phones. The update should be rolling out any day now not to mention flash. Make no mistake about it Apple is very scared of Android and you might be seeing quicker overhauls to iPhones in the future. Apple no doubt has a large app market but how much of that stuff do you really want and how much is stupid B.S.This issue isn't hardware specs. It's also dependent on software.
Just look at the HTC EVO (with Sprint and with Android) and the HTC HD2 (with tmobile and Windows Mobile 6.5). They are essentially the same identical phone. Same screen, same processor. Almost everything the same. Notice the EVO runs (or appears to run faster than it's HD2 Win mobile cousin).
The HTC Incredible run the same hardware as the HTC Nexus One (aka Google phone). With the exception of a 8MP vs. 5 MP camera. These are essentially the same phone. These phones runs about the same speed because they are the same phone and same OS. The incredible has a little prettier interface because of Sense but it's the same.
But when you look at the iPhone 4. Combine the hardware with iOS software. This iPhone 4 is going to kill it's competitor.
Screen Resolution: iPhone 4 wins over HTC Incredible
Screen size: 3.5 IPS vs. 3.7 OMLED (try looking at the screen in daylight and you will know what I mean).
Processor: A4 (1GZ, probably downclocked to 800 mhz to conserve battery) vs. Snapdragon 1 GZ (runs at full speed but kills battery life).
RAM: 512 MB iphone vs. 512 MB HTC Incredible
App size limitation on phone:
iPhone 4 (limited to 16GB or 32 GB). All Android phones are limited to 256MB app size limit (Android/Google said they are working to have encryption to enable apps to run on the microSD card but so far nothing).
Battery life: No comparison. the iPhone 4 will be superior to the HTC Incredible in terms of battery life
open source vs. closed system (it's your choice, Google vs. Apple).
Cloud synching (google is free, Apple will want you to pay for Mobile ME.)
As for Flash, Adobe is supposely bringing flash to Android (soon....hmmm they have been saying flash on Android almost 2 years since Android launch).
iOS 4 was meant for a single piece of hardware for which it shines.
Trust me, I used to make fun of Apple because people around me were doing the same thing. And yes, we were all Windows users. And yes, we all dealt with blue screens, registry errors, compatibility issues, viruses, IRQ/DMA conflicts, finicky drivers, applications and other poorly written code... yet, we were all poking fun at what we really didn't know about on the other side.
I made the switch in 2007 and honestly struggled with enjoying my newfound freedom while spending a good portion of that time blaming myself that I actually had unfounded prejudice all those years.
You really need to stay up on Android news if you gonna quote specs. The Froyo update allows apps to go onto the SD card of Android phones. The update should be rolling out any day now not to mention flash. Make no mistake about it Apple is very scared of Android and you might be seeing quicker overhauls to iPhones in the future.
And which piece of hardware is that?
The iPhone 4? The iPad? Older iPhones?
Or do you simply mean that iOS 4 was only meant to run well on the iPhone 4 with its extra memory and CPU and display, and not so well on other iOS devices.
iOS is getting as fragmented as any OS that's used on multiple generations, hardware and displays.
Why is one not able to add a second battery or not be able to buy the sd card he needs. Nobody said anything about large apps. I said if you fill up phone memory apps can then be put on the sd card. Stupid is being restricted to in-phone memory because that is the way Steve says you need it.I lol'd...
Why exactly does one need to buy an SD card for large apps. Thats stupid imo..
Plus Flash will be just as bad as it is on a computer or any other phone. Slow, battery draining, CPU HOG.. Hence why Apple didn't put it in the iPhone.