Iphone 4s battery life

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  1. shoerofi macrumors newbie

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    This is my i4s battery life. My battery is 90 cycle count.
    Fully charged at 5 AM this morning. I do a lot of gaming COC, watch videos on youtube and browsing. And then, at 10 AM it run down to 40% with 3 hours usage.
    I just wanna know if my battery is normal or not.

    If anybody want to share his battery life too, it would be nice :)

    Thank you.
     

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  2. chambone macrumors 6502a

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    Looks normal to me. I always got 6 to 7 hours out of mine, but with no movie playing and only light games like wordfeud and puzzlers. You could dim the screen more if you want to squeeze more out of it. Also, you can use backupbot to obtain the exact battery stats.
     
  3. shoerofi thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I have tried using ibackupbot sir. I checked twice with my office and personal computer, then I've got the different results.

    On my office:
    CycleCount: 90
    DesignCapacity: 1430
    FullChargeCapacity: 1300

    On my personal computer:
    CycleCount: 90
    DesignCapacity: 1430
    FullChargeCapacity: 1400

    it's kinda weird, so I decide to post my battery usage :D
    I'm using iOS 8.2 btw, and i disable all the animation except transparency.
     
  4. chambone macrumors 6502a

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    Yes, that's strange. There's always some fluctuation in full charge capacity, but 100mAh seems like a bit much. Since the battery is still new at 90 cycles, I'd think around 1400 is probably right, unless you run it down to zero every day. I wouldn't worry about it. You could check with backupbot every now and then but i bet it will stay around 1400 for quite a while.
     
  5. shoerofi thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I did tried to reinstall the application, now it showing the same result FullChargeCapacity: 1400.

    Speaking of calibrating iphone battery. Is it true that i have to do a full discharge till the phone turns itself?
    Because i've done it a few times, maybe 20times from my new battery :D
     
  6. chambone macrumors 6502a

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    No, there's no reason to do that unless the battery percentage meter is really off. It will only wear the battery out more quickly. Just charge it when you want to.
     
  7. shoerofi thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I think, i've read the wrong tutorial!!!

    Thank you sir, you really helped me.

    But i am a bit worried with my new battery.
    Cause i did the full discharge several times, will it have much impact to my battery sir?
    I do not want to spend more money to buy a new battery :D
     
  8. chambone, Mar 22, 2015
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    chambone macrumors 6502a

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    Your battery will be fine. Don't discharge it completely unless you need to, and it's also no problem to take it off the charger before it's fully charged. Calibration and full cycles are not needed. Like I said, just use it as you please, which coincidentally happens to be best for lithium-ion based battery lifespan.
     
  9. Count Blah macrumors 68030

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    After installing iOS 7, my battery life dropped by 1/3. I had to get a battery case for it.

    That being said, I would have jumped for joy to have battery life like you have.
     
  10. shoerofi thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thank you sir, i'll take your advice.

    Try to check your battery condition with iBackupBot, as Chambone suggested to me.
    If your battery condition is still good, maybe you should try to reset all your settings.
     
  11. ivnj macrumors 65816

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    I have the same issue. My dad got iPhone 6. Regular not the big one. He gave me his old 4s. I have never heard of ibackupbot until today. I used it and my moms ipad air (first one not second) is 198 cycles. And my 3gs is 542 cycles. But I took the 4s to APPLE and genius said it is in the red zone. 260 cycles or something like that. They charge 80 dollars to replace the battery. So I went to a place called gadget works and they did it for 30 dollars. Oem grade is the highest they use he said. But ibackupbot says 211 cycles.

    So either they gave me a used battery or the data was never reset.

    Do I have to do a factory reset or restore to make it zero again or should I take it to apple and have them check?
     
  12. shoerofi thread starter macrumors newbie

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    You cannot reset the number. I think they just gave you a used battery.
     
  13. ivnj macrumors 65816

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    Thanks for the reply. Here is the deal. I saw a video on youtube a guy had the back of a 4s open. He showed two batteries. Both different cycles. One very low and one very high. So the count does reset. But mine might be defective. I called gadgetworks and one of the owners said the chip is on the motherboard not the battery. So mine might be faulty. He even showed me that day and it said was brand new.

    And today at my local apple store he said no issues. Software is a separate issue. But no hardware issues. No wifi or anything else bad. So good news. And the battery around 260 cycles. But in the green zone not red like last time.

    So battery might not be bad. It might be bad whatever counts the cycles on my motherboard. Its not Ibackupbot fault. It detects my dads new iphone 6 has only 5 cycles. So its probably my dads 4s at fault.

    They give 90 days warentee and he said he would refund me and put in the old battery. Bug if its red zone that's no good. And mine is green zone now so good news.

    So does that make sense? Can the motherboard counter thingee be bad? Or as long as its green zone I should not worry about the cycles and its good for at least 1 more year? 30+30=60 still better than 80. So I can just keep it for 1 year and do it again next year if I don't upgrade.
     
  14. chambone, Apr 4, 2015
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    No and no. There is no motherboard counter. The amount of charge cycles is counted and stored on the battery circuitry. If you were to put that battery into another 4S, it would report the exact same 211 cycles.

    Apple's 'green zone' probably runs from 80 to 100%, so it's a pretty coarse method to measure battery health. Much better to look at what software like ibackupbot says the max capacity is. Anyway, what you want when you pay someone $30, is a new battery with close to 1430mAh capacity, and no charge cycles that you didn't put on there yourself. Ask for a refund and never go there again. If they didn't know about the 211 cycles, they would have replaced the battery on the spot. Instead of offering to put your old one back.
     
  15. ivnj macrumors 65816

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    I don't want to start a fight so I'll goto another gadget works and get a second opinion. Thanks.
     
  16. ivnj macrumors 65816

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    I went back same place and the other guy there said same thing. Its on the motherboard and battery has no chip or anything he showed me. But its fresh he said and cycles do not matter. But my 3gs has 542 cycles and still works so as long as it has close to 1430 man or whatever its ok. He said if its not holding a charge bring it back and they will put the original battery back in. But they refuse to redo it with another fresh battery. He said it will also show same 211 cycles also probably.

    So thanks for the help here. But it will last 1 year at least. And 30 x 3 is 90 and apple said 80 bucks. So I can do this 3 times. It will last 3 years. I will just keep an eye and see how much it lasts. But something is definitely funny. My 3gs said 1 hour and 29 minutes of standby in settings. And after my 4s was on charge for 5 minutes the settings said 0 minutes on and 0 minutes standby.

    So the apple software is definitely not the best judge.

    But I will leave it on no apps running fresh restart (power off and then on) and then see how long it lasts. And 1 year from now measure again. If its decent then cycles don't matter. Even 211+365=576. And my 3gs had 543 and still works. So I should be good for 1 year at least.
     
  17. shoerofi thread starter macrumors newbie

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    i think you shouldn't worry about the cycle count as long as your battery can last a day with normal usage.
    like 'chambone' said, he always got 6 to 7 hours usage time. i think that's a normal battery. with normal usage.
     
  18. nox5 macrumors 6502

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    I bought 2 brand new aftermarket batteries on eBay $5 each. One had 0 cycles the other 234 cycles. Im guessing chip inside them is messed up sometimes. Not to mention design capacity is lower on those than on genuine Apple battery.
     

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