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this article is proof in my eyes that people dont listen. the 4s has way too many issues for it to be selling out everywhere.

Forest for the trees.

A5-powered iPhone + Apple ecosystem + Siri.

There is no mystery here.
 
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this article is proof in my eyes that people dont listen. the 4s has way too many issues for it to be selling out everywhere.

Anyone who does software knows that it is never perfect. You think Apple iOS is buggy? Try Android. Apple is ahead of the competition in terms of mobile software. This is not to say it is perfect, but darn close to it.

I personally upgraded to 4s and couldn't be happier. In the US at least, it actually makes little financial sense to keep your contract a day after your 2 year agreement
 
this article is proof in my eyes that people dont listen. the 4s has way too many issues for it to be selling out everywhere. i honestly thought they would have ironed out all of the problems by now with the .1 update, but they havent. they are still spitting out 150k a day so the build quality still sucks. they stated it would be a few weeks before they ironed out the battery issues and there is still glitch after glitch within the software.

did apple hit their "peak" with the i4? i think that might be highly possible.

may the -1s be stricken upon me for being 100% brutally honest.

Yeah, that's why the -1s are slamming you. Not because you don't have the foggiest idea of what you're talking about. But because you're honest.

That's it. :rolleyes:
 
Fastest roll-out because it's gonna be the shortest product refresh cycle. iPhone 5 in June/July.

No. They'll stick with Sept/Oct now. Besides, that lines up perfectly with the chips that Apple will want to finally be able to do LTE in the iPhone without killing the battery. (Current iOS 5 battery issues withstanding of course)
 
High demand for an Apple product? What?! How shocking...

I'm glad they are using the reservation system again though. So nice not to have those huge lineups... and it eliminates the uncertainty of not knowing if they'll have a phone for you!
 
I don't know why people ask these questions on macrumors. It's obvious the 4S isn't for everyone especially since the next coming of the iPhone is likely to be a redesign, with possibly a bigger screen(definitely not something promised), but This means it's a good chance the wait will be worth it. That's if you go with the current schedule apple has in place for upgrading features on its iPhone.

The 4S is a magnificent phone, but if u have the 4 and know you are going to want he 5, the obvious answer is to hold out. Wait for the 5. You will be glad you did. This will get negative numbers below, but it's the truth. Don't be enticed by the 4S. It's a self engaging trap that will have you very disappointed next year if you don believe in buying a phone year after year.
 
Luckily my current contract isn’t up, so I can avoid the 4S temptation!

I’m aiming for the 5 myself... but there’s a BIG problem with that.

You see, 10-20 months later, the 5 will get a major internal upgrade, to a 5S, say... same shape, but a much better machine! Do I really want to get an iPhone 5, knowing something so much better is coming before my contract is even up? Plus, a second version of a proven design is likely to be even more refined and perfected (like the antennas on the 4S) vs. a brand-new design.

I say, wait for the iPhone 5S. Unless something better is coming after that, but I’ve heard no rumors about it if so...

One of the most ridiculous posts I've ever read. You're saying people thinking about getting a phone now should wait 2-2.5 years? You're insane. Also, you've 'heard no rumors' about something coming after your imaginary 5S, which would be a phone 3 generations from now? Is that supposed to be a serious statement?
 
Still debating if this is worth getting or waiting till the actual 5

I would wait for the iPhone 5.

I heard that the iPhone 7 is going to be outstanding. You could wait for it...

... Or you could get the iPhone 4S and not miss out on the experience hat is currently being offered, and you'll have options to upgrade to future models when they're available.
 
How does giving it two more cores with no regard for battery life make it innovative. My cpu has 6 cores, it makes be from the future if you call 4 cores innovative.

You just assumed the battery life will be bad.
Change your thinking. That chip alone is progress and a huge one. Tegra 3... Do you even know what can does this open?
And what does desktop have got to do with mobile. How you even compare such things rofl. Just cause it's not apple that's all I see there in your argument.



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Will be fast. Will have a half hour of battery life. Still looks ugly.

Can I have a proof to this statement?
You know cause lately I can easy say that battery life on android phones gets significant improvement and I'm not considering 4s as a competitor here which is far below anything even android has right now.
My year old Desire Z gets pretty much same time as my iP4. My Sensation goes above that time and I am talking usage and not holding it in my pocket.

you should learn facts first and stop reading fanboy forums. They make you look uneducated.
 
this article is proof in my eyes that people dont listen. the 4s has way too many issues for it to be selling out everywhere. i honestly thought they would have ironed out all of the problems by now with the .1 update, but they havent. they are still spitting out 150k a day so the build quality still sucks. they stated it would be a few weeks before they ironed out the battery issues and there is still glitch after glitch within the software.

did apple hit their "peak" with the i4? i think that might be highly possible.

may the -1s be stricken upon me for being 100% brutally honest.

I'm not having problems with my phone.
 
Wasn't it supposed to be the Atrix "superphone"?

Android level of "super" is in constant motion. That's called progression. Manufacturers actually compete creating hardware that really does show a clear step ahead.

One model after 1xx months with a chip already in the iPad for quite a while and some Siri that can't do nothing apart from trying to look cool is what I call stagnation.

It is a great phone. I own the 4 and I like it but try to find a argument that makes sense LTD because there was a time when shaping a stone was considered WHOAAH! Things wouldn't go far from those times if people would not crave for innovation.

I don't know how old are you dude but acknowledge the fact that the only way for your life to get better is when manufacturers move forward with their designs.

Don't settle and guard like a silver knight on a white horse a product that has flaws whether it's apple or android. The sooner you became conscious of this the higher expectations you will set. They higher expectation the consumer sets the better the products the company has.
Push them not comfort that you are ok with sub par stuff.

To me that is clear as **** but maybe I just expecting too much.
 
Is there any better marketing tool than sold out.

A great way to create buzz. Apple marketing is second to none.
 
Wait, so Hong Kong is a country now?

Hong Kong is what is called a Special Administrative Region so operates it's own borders, currency, laws etc. So effectively operates as it's own country whilst still being technically part of the Peoples Republic of China since the transition back in 1999. In reality it is more of a separate country than Wales and England are and they are technically separate countries.

Macau is a similar arrangement.
 
How is more innovation a quad core, more RAM and a bigger display? Those are upgrades to HTC's previous version.

Many of the "newest fastest" Android devices I've used have somehow "innovated" how to double the CPU speed but show almost no discernible difference in performance in actual use (ie scrolling remains choppy, UI visibly low frame rate, etc)
 
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I have got thursday afternoon and Friday off so I will be ready to go and queue up outside IFC.. I sense a war coming..
 
Many of the "newest fastest" Android devices I've used have somehow "innovated" how to double the CPU speed but show almost no discernible difference in performance in actual use (ie scrolling remains choppy, UI visibly low frame rate, etc)

Many... please give us some proof... or else you are like some guy from theverge that got the galaxy nexus and wrote it lags. Obviously everybody that actually had some time with the device laughed at him pretty hard.

Troll away.

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How is more innovation a quad core, more RAM and a bigger display? Those are upgrades to HTC's previous version.

Seriously? Is that your opinion? rofl. (there is no point even trying to speak to a person that doesn't see Kal-el in a 4.7" as innovation)
 
Many, I mean MANY users in Hong Kong just can't get their hands on the new iPhones because Apple allows 10 units per customer in pre-order. I've said it in other threads and I will say it again, 90% of the phones are being ordered in bulk by resellers and end up in mainland China.

People open multiple Apple ID's and simply order 20, 30, or even more. Profit per phone is like US$120+! You do the maths.

They might be sold out in 10 minutes (more like 30 mins, still very impressive to generate news and hype) but users are UNHAPPY. Shame on Apple! :mad:
 
Hong Kong is what is called a Special Administrative Region so operates it's own borders, currency, laws etc. So effectively operates as it's own country whilst still being technically part of the Peoples Republic of China since the transition back in 1999. In reality it is more of a separate country than Wales and England are and they are technically separate countries.

Macau is a similar arrangement.

It should be 1997 for Hong Kong. Macau was handed over in 1999.

quote from Wikipedia:
The transfer of sovereignty over Hong Kong from the United Kingdom to the People's Republic of China, referred to as ‘the Return’ or ‘the Reunification’ by the Chinese and ‘the Handover’ by others, took place on 1 July 1997. The event marked the end of British rule, and the transfer of sovereignty of Hong Kong to China.

That's a very sad day for most Hong Kongers.
 
Many... please give us some proof... or else you are like some guy from theverge that got the galaxy nexus and wrote it lags. Obviously everybody that actually had some time with the device laughed at him pretty hard.

Troll away.

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Seriously? Is that your opinion? rofl. (there is no point even trying to speak to a person that doesn't see Kal-el in a 4.7" as innovation)

I haven't used the Galaxy Nexus. But I have used several Android phones when they were the "new hotness"... T-Mobile G2 (dual core! and choppy!) Droid Bionic (faster dual cores! blows the iPhone 4 away! err.. and choppy!) As in "yeah-it's-dual-core-but-you'd-never-know-it".

Why is Kal-el in a 4.7" device particularly innovative?
 
I haven't used the Galaxy Nexus. But I have used several Android phones when they were the "new hotness"... T-Mobile G2 (dual core! and choppy!) Droid Bionic (faster dual cores! blows the iPhone 4 away! err.. and choppy!) As in "yeah-it's-dual-core-but-you'd-never-know-it".

Why is Kal-el in a 4.7" device particularly innovative?

First of all... lol.

And then let's start with this:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/t-mobile-g2?view=1-1&sort=0&filters=3-0-0#tech-specs

Once you read info provided in that link you will realize that you have proven to me that you are talking out of your butt. I knew you didn't use even a single phone out of those "many" you wrote about. lol when will you trolls realize that your post are as clear as thin air.

And btw... Since when "two" is "many"??

PS. FYI Galaxy Nexus is not even out yet...

What's the point of trolling like that? I don't get it. Instead of educating yourself to become a more conscious consumer people dumb themselves and fight for absolutely no reason. Seriously this is beyond my level of comprehension.



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Here's the article headline:

iPhone 4S Demand Remains Strong as International Rollouts Continue

It's got numbers and figures and all those fun little things.

It's posted on an Apple-centric website (this is a rather important point.)

Here's your response - out of the clear blue sky, completely unrelated to the what's under discussion:

I see this much more innovative...

http://phandroid.com/2011/11/07/rumored-quad-core-htc-edge-pushes-the-envelope-for-all-smartphones/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


Explain to me what's going on here and what you're trying to achieve with that comment.

Once you go back and answer all my questions (different posts) I asked you and you avoided them I'll come back to this.
Not wasting more time talking to a wall.
 
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Anyone who does software knows that it is never perfect. You think Apple iOS is buggy? Try Android. Apple is ahead of the competition in terms of mobile software. This is not to say it is perfect, but darn close to it.

I personally upgraded to 4s and couldn't be happier. In the US at least, it actually makes little financial sense to keep your contract a day after your 2 year agreement

i turned my i4s in for a gs2. i can tell you straight up, it is not as buggy as the 4s. it is no where near perfect though. i still wish i had my i4. the i4 was a great phone. it still is as long as it is running ios4. it has been 24? days since the release. roughly eight weeks since the release of beta 7 and four weeks since the gold master. it is unlike apple to take this long to fix their problems. the fact that is is makes me wonder what the heck they are thinking and/or doing.

like i said... did they "peak" with the i4? i still love apple. i am typing this on an 27" i3 imac. listening to youtube on my appletv. but i am not afraid to say they they have been figuratively screwing the pooch lately.
 
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