iPhone 4S vs 4 display

barryl85

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Jul 8, 2010
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I think the warm ones look terrible, everyone who has a warm screen are desperate to say "there's nothing wrong with it" or "it's not broke".

Ok so technically its not broke but you cant say there's nothing wrong with it because it will never look as fresh and appealing as a whiter screen.

No matter how many yellow screen owners come on and defend it, really they are just disappointed they didn't get a whiter screen.
 

lamboman

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Aug 13, 2011
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The 4/iPod touch and the 4S use different displays. Personally I've always thought that the 4/iTouch display was a tiny bit odd with its colour reproduction; ever so slightly too purple-ish and washed out in some other cases. My personal opinion is that the 4S display has better colour reproduction, but other opinions may differ. Mine is probably one of the better ones and isn't mega-yellow as some claim; however, that "problem" is hugely exaggerated, I think it's because people compare their other devices based on how they reproduce white, and nothing else.

I think the warm ones look terrible, everyone who has a warm screen are desperate to say "there's nothing wrong with it" or "it's not broke".

Ok so technically its not broke but you cant say there's nothing wrong with it because it will never look as fresh and appealing as a whiter screen.

No matter how many yellow screen owners come on and defend it, really they are just disappointed they didn't get a whiter screen.
Wow, we seem to be in the presence of the infamous MacRumors mind-reader...:rolleyes:
 

lamboman

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Aug 13, 2011
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No you are another defender of the off white screen.

Any glamorous/respectful display will not reproduce whites as yellow.
And as for the other colours? Or I could flip it over and say, as if fact, that the 4/iTouch only reproduces white properly.

At the end of the day, it's what you are happy with. I'm happy with my display, as while it may not (and I'll be open, it doesn't) reproduce white properly, it is far better, to my eyes, than the displays that came before it.
 

barryl85

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Jul 8, 2010
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And as for the other colours? Or I could flip it over and say, as if fact, that the 4/iTouch only reproduces white properly.
Ok so as for the other colours, white and black (technically black is not a colour) are the most important, everyone knows how white and black should look, as for the other colours, how do you know how blue or red or green or purple or yellow etc.... they should be?

Yes too much contrast or too faded are easily spotted but when its a case of the yellowing screen is apparent and changing colours like the example above with the safari browser looking grey when it should be blue that is just wrong.


At the end of the day, it's what you are happy with. I'm happy with my display, as while it may not (and I'll be open, it doesn't) reproduce white properly, it is far better, to my eyes, than the displays that came before it.
So an iPhone 4 showing true white is not as good as yellowing :rolleyes:


Obviously if you are happy with it then crack on, that's a good thing but you cannot deny that a problem exists.
 

mlmwalt

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Jun 8, 2010
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I like the screen on my 4s. The color is fine. Photos and games look smashing. :D

After looking at same images/games on my gen3 Touch, the difference is striking. :eek: The old Touch can't compare.
 

alFR

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Aug 10, 2006
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No you are another defender of the off white screen.

Any glamorous/respectful display will not reproduce whites as yellow.
Please read this. Then post spectrophotometer results to back up your claim that the "blue" screens are more colour accurate than the "yellow" ones. We'll wait.
 

barryl85

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Jul 8, 2010
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Please read this. Then post spectrophotometer results to back up your claim that the "blue" screens are more colour accurate than the "yellow" ones. We'll wait.
No thanks, in my world white is suppose to be white, not yellow.

Someone posted a picture of a 3GS and a 4S sitting on a white piece of paper, and the 3GS (blue screen) almost matches the white of the paper, the 4S does not.

When Apple sells you a white iPhone or a white iPad, would you like it to be off white?
 

alFR

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Aug 10, 2006
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No thanks, in my world white is suppose to be white, not yellow.

Someone posted a picture of a 3GS and a 4S sitting on a white piece of paper, and the 3GS (blue screen) almost matches the white of the paper, the 4S does not.
You do understand that the colour of the picture you're referring to depends on:

  • The colour of the objects
  • The colour of the ambient light when they were photographed
  • The colour accuracy of the digital camera used to take the photo / what it chose to use as its auto white balance point
  • The colour accuracy of the screen you used to view the photo

don't you? Plus the fact that the colour of the reflected light (from the paper) will be completely dependent on the temperature of the ambient light and the light generated by the displays won't?

The only way to tell whether a display is accurate or not is to measure the colour temperature. Either do that and post some results refuting those I linked to on page 1, or you've not got a valid argument.
 

barryl85

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Jul 8, 2010
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You do understand that the colour of the picture you're referring to depends on:

  • The colour of the objects
  • The colour of the ambient light when they were photographed
  • The colour accuracy of the digital camera used to take the photo / what it chose to use as its auto white balance point
  • The colour accuracy of the screen you used to view the photo

don't you? Plus the fact that the colour of the reflected light (from the paper) will be completely dependent on the temperature of the ambient light and the light generated by the displays won't?

The only way to tell whether a display is accurate or not is to measure the colour temperature. Either do that and post some results refuting those I linked to on page 1, or you've not got a valid argument.
I don't have to do anything, there's no argument or facts or opinions that I need to provide but my own. I'm not some technological scientist I couldn't care about what kind of tests should be done or how things should be photographed.

Your the one arguing about it all, i'm telling you IMO the yellow screen looks horrible because it does not properly produce white as white - its yellow, I cant think of anyone that would want a display to look yellow, in fact i'd love to see a yellow screen on a white device because IMO it would look stupid.
 

lamboman

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Aug 13, 2011
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The iPod Touch uses a different panel than the iPhone 4/S. The retina display on the iPod Touch lacks IPS.
Good point, completely forgot about that. +1ed your comment.

That said, I personally feel my point between the 4 and the 4S still stands.
 

jedivulcan

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May 15, 2007
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I'm shipping back the iPhone 4S I bought yesterday to Apple for a full refund.

iPhone 4 on the left vs. iPhone 4S on the right
 

Acronyc

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I don't think there's any question that there are different screens. I've had experience using three iPhones - one 4 and two 4s's - and they have all been different. My 4s from this January is noticeably warmer than my girlfriend's 4 from last September, but the difference isn't drastic enough to me to warrant a replacement.

Because I was having other issues I did get a replacement 4s last month, and it had an extremely blue/cool screen, and also looked brighter than both my original 4s and my girlfriend's 4. After using that phone for a few days it made both of the other phones look warmer and the whites not as "white". However, I felt the colors were almost too unnatural and it had a really uneven screen. Because I didn't want to play the phone lottery I decided to keep my original device.

After being on my original device for a month again now it seems fine, and I think it really comes down to our perception and what our eyes are used to. I know my phone has a warmer tint to it, but in daily use the whites seem just fine and the screen looks fantastic. It's only when I compare it to another phone can I recognize any difference, and I've yet to see a 4s that was as crazily blue as the replacement I had.

It's not like I'm using my phone side by side with another phone every day, and since my eyes are used to my screen I think I'm okay with it. If you're used to a blue screen I can understand why one would be upset, though, and there is clearly a lot of variation in screen temperature/gamma.
 

hector4drake

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Feb 3, 2012
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I don't think there's any question that there are different screens. I've had experience using three iPhones - one 4 and two 4s's - and they have all been different. My 4s from this January is noticeably warmer than my girlfriend's 4 from last September, but the difference isn't drastic enough to me to warrant a replacement.

Because I was having other issues I did get a replacement 4s last month, and it had an extremely blue/cool screen, and also looked brighter than both my original 4s and my girlfriend's 4. After using that phone for a few days it made both of the other phones look warmer and the whites not as "white". However, I felt the colors were almost too unnatural and it had a really uneven screen. Because I didn't want to play the phone lottery I decided to keep my original device.

After being on my original device for a month again now it seems fine, and I think it really comes down to our perception and what our eyes are used to. I know my phone has a warmer tint to it, but in daily use the whites seem just fine and the screen looks fantastic. It's only when I compare it to another phone can I recognize any difference, and I've yet to see a 4s that was as crazily blue as the replacement I had.

It's not like I'm using my phone side by side with another phone every day, and since my eyes are used to my screen I think I'm okay with it. If you're used to a blue screen I can understand why one would be upset, though, and there is clearly a lot of variation in screen temperature/gamma.
Wow! That one is too yellow! My phone is between those two, so I think I`m fine, right? I can only see the yellow hue if I compare it to other iPhones
 

mfred90

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Mar 6, 2012
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iPhone 4s Vs iPhone 4

Most of the iPhone users cry-out for an improvement in screen size. But the news (be it’s good or bad) is that the screen of iPhone 4S is identical to that of last incarnation. In spite of outstanding pixel density, the size of screen makes users feel down. Maybe, they (Apple) have ever thought like that.
 

Tea-Aholic

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Dec 8, 2011
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Just wanted to follow up on this thread. I got a replacement at the Genius Bar after showing a several Geniuses the display models. They also took their own iPhones out for comparison as well and mine was clearly yellow. Now I have a nice screen. :D

Before, my 4S looked really yellow compared to my 3G.

Now my 3G looks yellow compared to my 4S. But I'd rather blue than yellow in the end. :D

Left (4S, 64GB, Black) Right (3G, 16GB, White)
 

terraphantm

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Jun 27, 2009
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Nice picture, shame about your trouble though, I mean anyone who looks at that and thinks the yellow screen shows a better colour representation is off their head frankly.
I could easily set the white point of my camera to treat the warmer screen as "white" - then the cooler one would look rather blue in the picture. That still wouldn't be representative of reality.

While I do prefer slightly cooler screens, the difference is not as dramatic as cameras make it appear. Admittedly I think my 4S is better than most, but it's still warmer than my old phone's screen (iPhone 4)
 

Ecoh

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Oct 30, 2009
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My desktop monitor is calibrated with with a Spyder Pro hardware device for graphics work. My 4S is much closer to my calibrated screen than my husbands 4. His 4 looks much closes to his uncalibrated notebook screen.

When I switch back and forth between the original color profile my desktop monitor came with, people watching will always say the calibrated screen looks yellowish after seeing the blueish default screen. I know the calibration is very close to perfect because I can take photos of colored fabrics, display them on the monitor and the colors on the screen match the fabric samples closely.

He likes his 4 screen, I prefer my 4S screen. It is just a matter of what you are used to looking at.