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iPhone 5 Cases Suggest a Much Larger Device with a 4" Screen
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14 pages about a third-party possible iPhone 5 case.
It's highly unlikely that Apple would share the size of the next iPhone with some unknown third-party manufacturer.
Why would they? Apple would want those who buy the new iPhone to buy their cases.
Sure, this is MacRumors, but think a bit about what it is all based on, and then judge the likelihood of the manufacturer getting it right...
It's highly unlikely that Apple would share the size of the next iPhone with some unknown third-party manufacturer.
Why would they? Apple would want those who buy the new iPhone to buy their cases.
Sure, this is MacRumors, but think a bit about what it is all based on, and then judge the likelihood of the manufacturer getting it right...
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You are right that Apple wouldn't share the size and design with 3rd party case manufacturers. However, seeing how these case manufacturers are Chinese outfits, it stands to reason they might have had leaks from their buddies over at Foxconn.
Although Apple isn't one, this is the way a dictatorship runs. Everyone walks around pre programmed never having to think.
Perhaps they're onto something. Oops there's my sense of humor again.
It's too serious in here.
Actually, Steve would probably care more about the iPhone screen size than his personal health issues.
After all, he has complete control over the iPhone screen size. He can only do so much about his health. What we know about Steve, he will focus on what he can change, not about what he can't.
Steve is not the CEO anymore, if you hadn't heard. Which means he is not the end-all be-all authority on product design, only one of many on the board of directors. Sure, he has plenty of sway, but it's not solely his decision anymore. That said, the iPhone 5 has surely been in development long enough that he could have axed the larger screen size prior to stepping down. Apple simply cannot stay with a 3.5" screen forever...a phone's screen is arguably the most important aspect of it's design. Being the only smartphone manufacturer that refuses to increase it's screen size from here on out is just foolish, and I think Apple has enough business sense to understand that. I completely agree with this -
"The only reason bigger screens have been a negative around here is because Apple does not offer one. The minute an iPhone comes out with a larger screen you can bet everyone will quickly forget the 3.5" screen and claim that Apple was so wise to make a larger screen. The only reason anyone has ever tried to say that 3.5" is superior to anything larger is because Apple doesn't currently offer anything larger."
Nicely said! I've never had an iphone but I look every year to see what's new from Apple. Not upping the screen size to at least 4 inches is a very bad mistake. Only the hardcore iphone users that soaked lots of money in apps would stay. Why would I being a droid x user want to go way down to 3.5 inches (or 3.8 inches) from 4.3? What is Apple's plan to steal away Android users? The app store is not working and icloud is not the answer. Dual core is fine but over 95% of what you do on a phone involves the screen.
I don't want apple to lose without giving us a good fight. These apple vs android battles are a win win for the consumer. More tech at cheaper cost.
One of many? No, more like Chairman of the Board. There is only one of those. And, yes, while he does not have day-to-day duties anymore in that position, he does have influence as COB to recommend the BOD fire any execs, so don't think his influence is gone. It's not.
Also the iPhone 5, or whatever the next iPhone will be called, was designed while he was CEO. It's not a Tim Cook product.
Although Apple isn't one, this is the way a dictatorship runs. Everyone walks around pre programmed never having to think.
Perhaps they're onto something. Oops there's my sense of humor again.
It's too serious in here.
You, and the person you quoted are missing the point. Hardware specs mean nothing when the OS sucks. The idea is people around here, and myself included, aren't willing to sacrifice beautiful software for bulky hardware, and a sluggish OS. Things might be a little different if every major Android handset wasn't skinned, and full of bloat ware. I'll suffice with a slightly smaller screen, for a much better user experience.
My mistake, I for some reason thought he stepped down to a different position. And yes, I agree with you, the iPhone 5 was most definitely designed under his watch as CEO, so any design changes went through him no doubt. I hope he had a change of heart regarding the iPhone's screen size, though.
I'm fairly certain Steve Jobs could have stepped down and become a janitor at Apple and they still would let him make decisions.
Keeping Ahead of the Game
Whilst the iPhone 4 is still the most desirable phone out there, it would be foolish top overlook the need to keep up, or even ahead of Android's technical advances. Some of my friends here in Japan have larger, lighter phones with screens that are simply incomparably better for photos or videos by virtue of being larger than the iPhone's. 4" vs 3.5" may not sound like a lot on paper, but believe me it makes a world of difference in the real world, plus the convenience of being light and then anyway.
So i for one am pleased that the next model may well give me a screen large enough to really enjoy video on. sharp though the current retina display is, I can't really sit back and enjoy such things on it. nor do I lust after the crappy battery life and dodgy software of Android devices- it looks like I may get the best of both worlds with this!
Whilst the iPhone 4 is still the most desirable phone out there, it would be foolish top overlook the need to keep up, or even ahead of Android's technical advances. Some of my friends here in Japan have larger, lighter phones with screens that are simply incomparably better for photos or videos by virtue of being larger than the iPhone's. 4" vs 3.5" may not sound like a lot on paper, but believe me it makes a world of difference in the real world, plus the convenience of being light and then anyway.
So i for one am pleased that the next model may well give me a screen large enough to really enjoy video on. sharp though the current retina display is, I can't really sit back and enjoy such things on it. nor do I lust after the crappy battery life and dodgy software of Android devices- it looks like I may get the best of both worlds with this!
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Where people are weighed in "stone?" Crazy talk! The logical choice would be Canada. Metric and the most American-y
All these guesses and contradicting information about the size and form is making the anticipation more prickly. It'll be nice when it's finally over!
I can believe this. I can't tell you how many times I've taken a picture with my phone that looked great on the phone, only to pull it up on a monitor later and see that the edges are blurry. That .5 though might be as far as I'd be willing to go wishfully though - I'm one of the few that would rather my phone be a bit thicker than wider.
America really needs to move to decimal measurements.
2.31 inches. What is that? It isn't a real measurement.
Someone had to invent decimalised points of inches, which is nonsensical.
The imperial measurement of an inch is divided into quarters, 8ths, 16ths etc - its impossible (or at least extremely difficult) for a decimal 0.9 to ever equal a valid measurement in inches.
Coming from the UK I'm no better to lecture anyone, since they have a muddled system too. Road signs & cars all use miles, but smaller measurements are usually metres, centimetres, millimetres. Most weights are decimal, but sometimes lbs & ounces.
Of course theres no need to do away with inches completely, but in a technical environment, it really should be millimetres these days.
2.31 inches. What is that? It isn't a real measurement.
Someone had to invent decimalised points of inches, which is nonsensical.
The imperial measurement of an inch is divided into quarters, 8ths, 16ths etc - its impossible (or at least extremely difficult) for a decimal 0.9 to ever equal a valid measurement in inches.
Coming from the UK I'm no better to lecture anyone, since they have a muddled system too. Road signs & cars all use miles, but smaller measurements are usually metres, centimetres, millimetres. Most weights are decimal, but sometimes lbs & ounces.
Of course theres no need to do away with inches completely, but in a technical environment, it really should be millimetres these days.
I hope you are not talking about the iPhone, the iPod, the iPad ...
because, you know, they also come out of chinese factories
It looks like an Iphone 4 with a rounded case on it, or a good fake. Check this side:
http://kuwaitiful.com/comedy/iphone-5-available-in-kuwait-for-38kd/
720 x 1280 (16:9), seamless home button
Those are my predictions, based purely on Apple instinct and no actual references. As for the tapered design, I don't know. As one person already commented some time back, the whole thing will be lopsided when used in landscape mode.
The home button (which activates the screen and touch sensors) has to be a mechanical button of some sort, because I believe the capacitive touch draws power when active. So why wouldn't they do what they did with just about every other device and make the whole bottom of the phone click. I'll trust Apple to come up with just the right stiffness.
I also believe they will extend the "touch" to beyond the screen so you can click the home button with two or three fingers, swipe and do all sort of interesting things off the screen, as opposed to gestures on the screen when an app is active.
Less important than the SIZE of the screen to me is the RESOLUTION. At the same retina ppi, they only have to make the screen 12.5% wider (so not TOO much letterbox for old apps) to reach 720. In the vertical (portrait) direction they can rearrange a bit and eat into the home button and speaker space to reach 1280 without actually making the phone longer. It will be marketed as the worlds first HD retina display in 16:9 format.
Old apps will still run 640 x 960, perhaps with the exception of the standard pop-up keyboard that may be wider. All the standard apps will be upgraded. The home screen will have icons with a little more spacing (like on iPad). 720p HD video content play beautifully on the iPhone and this will become a big selling point.
I don't think they will get too close to the edge of the device with the screen as this will badly affect usability. Already with a bad wraparound case design I find myself bumping into the case with my finger when I want to touch the very edge of the screen. I trust Apple to do these kind of tests and draw the same conclusion.
Additional possibilities:
Those are my predictions, based purely on Apple instinct and no actual references. As for the tapered design, I don't know. As one person already commented some time back, the whole thing will be lopsided when used in landscape mode.
The home button (which activates the screen and touch sensors) has to be a mechanical button of some sort, because I believe the capacitive touch draws power when active. So why wouldn't they do what they did with just about every other device and make the whole bottom of the phone click. I'll trust Apple to come up with just the right stiffness.
I also believe they will extend the "touch" to beyond the screen so you can click the home button with two or three fingers, swipe and do all sort of interesting things off the screen, as opposed to gestures on the screen when an app is active.
Less important than the SIZE of the screen to me is the RESOLUTION. At the same retina ppi, they only have to make the screen 12.5% wider (so not TOO much letterbox for old apps) to reach 720. In the vertical (portrait) direction they can rearrange a bit and eat into the home button and speaker space to reach 1280 without actually making the phone longer. It will be marketed as the worlds first HD retina display in 16:9 format.
Old apps will still run 640 x 960, perhaps with the exception of the standard pop-up keyboard that may be wider. All the standard apps will be upgraded. The home screen will have icons with a little more spacing (like on iPad). 720p HD video content play beautifully on the iPhone and this will become a big selling point.
I don't think they will get too close to the edge of the device with the screen as this will badly affect usability. Already with a bad wraparound case design I find myself bumping into the case with my finger when I want to touch the very edge of the screen. I trust Apple to do these kind of tests and draw the same conclusion.
Additional possibilities:
8.3 megapixel camera with crisp 1080p video recording (8.3 megapixel is exactly double resolution along each axis for 1080p)
maaaybe 1152 x 648, also a 16:9 resolution that is 90% along each axis of 720p
probably only the iPhone 6, but with built-in sim, sealed in battery, over the air updates and possible WiTricity or indcutive charging they are very close to doing away with the 30-pin connector. With only the low current earphone jack to worry about, they may even have a water resistant design soon.
I have to admit I've been a little apprehensive over the whole idea of introducing a 4" screen for a number of reasons.
1. All of the HTC and Samsung phones released so far with 4" displays have looked quite cool but have felt like a nightmare to hold (and I have very big hands) and feel like you've got an A4 clipboard in your pocket.
2. The screen size that Apple have used to date is perfectly adequate. Surely they have learned from the 3rd generation iPod shuffle that if something ain't broke, don't fix it.
3. If I were an iOS app developer I'd be getting pretty pissed. It was only a year ago that they had to re-do all their graphics to be retina display friendly so now they've gotta do it again. I can't see Apple keeping the same resolution as that would mean diluting the 326 ppi that makes a retina display a retina display. They'd have to add more pixels, which means graphics changes for developers.
As for making the thing thinner, I'm undecided. If they do it right, I could get on board, but it would have to be easy to hold and difficult to drop. Latest iPod Touch is far too easy to drop and I don't fancy claiming on my insurance a bunch of times at £100 excess a pop.
I hope Apple isn't falling into the trap of adding/changing things to give the illusion of a worthwhile update. I would be more than happy with a healthy speed boost, some more storage and 1080p video.
1. All of the HTC and Samsung phones released so far with 4" displays have looked quite cool but have felt like a nightmare to hold (and I have very big hands) and feel like you've got an A4 clipboard in your pocket.
2. The screen size that Apple have used to date is perfectly adequate. Surely they have learned from the 3rd generation iPod shuffle that if something ain't broke, don't fix it.
3. If I were an iOS app developer I'd be getting pretty pissed. It was only a year ago that they had to re-do all their graphics to be retina display friendly so now they've gotta do it again. I can't see Apple keeping the same resolution as that would mean diluting the 326 ppi that makes a retina display a retina display. They'd have to add more pixels, which means graphics changes for developers.
As for making the thing thinner, I'm undecided. If they do it right, I could get on board, but it would have to be easy to hold and difficult to drop. Latest iPod Touch is far too easy to drop and I don't fancy claiming on my insurance a bunch of times at £100 excess a pop.
I hope Apple isn't falling into the trap of adding/changing things to give the illusion of a worthwhile update. I would be more than happy with a healthy speed boost, some more storage and 1080p video.
