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I really hope they step up there game with this one. iPhone is starting to lag behind the competition.

I think they are already seriously lagging behind. And what we've seen so far of the iPhone 5 isn't very encouraging. I don;t know why apple are so opposed to making the iphone a bit bigger, these larger 4/4.5" Android phones are flying off the shelf - so consumers obviously want them and are not put off by the larger size.
 
Why can't it be all aluminum on the back? Surely there must be a reason for this - has anyone figured it out? Is it possible the new camera / flash need glass? New antenna?



The antennae are on the top and bottom of the band between the cuts. Make that back part metal and everytime you hold the phone, the signal dies. Antennae gate all over again. By putting glass there they stop the possible attenuation.
 
So I can see it now: Tim: "and now, the iPhone 6!! Any questions from the press?"
"Yes, Tim, what happened to the iPhone 5?"
Tim: "Uh... Next question please"
"Thanks Tim, was the iPhone 5 aborted? What went wrong?"
Tim: "Nothing went wrong, it's the iPhone 6! Doesn't anyone have any questions about the iPhone 6?" (crickets)
Tim: "Ok, you sir."
"About this aborted iPhone 5...."

Yeah, it'll be called the iPhone 6 alright. Idiots.

Finally someone gets it...
 
I was somewhat surprised to see all this 'iPhone 6' talk in the comments. None of us know the actually name yet, but here is my opinion:

This next iPhone will more than likely not be called the iPhone 6. Skipping the number 5 is oddly strange. Yes I know this will be the 6th iPhone, but that isn't how their naming scheme has worked. (3G was the 2nd iPhone, 4S was the 5th). I have a strong hunch on 2 options.

Likely, it might be called the iPhone 4G. The only drawback is that this will technically be the 3rd '4' iPhone viewed by general consumers (4, 4S, now 4G is somewhat confusing).

The iPhone 5 also makes sense. After all, the iPhone is 5 years old, so iPhone 5 seems plausible. The only thing that contradicts all this is iOS 6. It makes sense to call it the iPhone 6 because it's running iOS 6. But again, 4S ran 5.0.

In the end, I don't care what the name is. I just want a quality phone that is best on the market. Period.
 
From the above history of iPhone names (and iPad names), I'd guess the following:

2012 iPhone:
  • Marketing name: the new iPhone aka iPhone (6th gen)

I would have said iPhone (autumn 2012)
If it is going full metal back a wonder if they'll go move colours.
Maybe autumn release black only and drop it worldwide on the same day. Then iPhone (spring 2013) add white and another couple of colours.
 
they need to stop being lazy and innovate again. adding simply more "apps" that are mostly just partnered programs "yielp ...." wont cut it for too long. see what happened to nokia and bberry?

they may be on top right now but that can change in a heart beat.

i know people dont really care about personal experience on here but of my friends im the only one left with an iPhone. everyone else who used to have an iphone switched to samsung or htc (hell i cant even stand htc)

i love my mac and my ipad but if i wouldnt be so tied to the iCloud and apple ecosystem i may have jumped ship along with them
 
I find the mockups of this phone... unsatisfying... I really need to see what this actually looks like, because I'm not sure how I feel about the design, based on the speculative mockups... But, with a fall release, I suppose we won't have to wait too long...
 
I don't see how "New" would work for either the ipad or iphone. What do they do next year? Are they going to call them "Newer?" I think they should copy the auto industry and use the year as part of their name. My iphone "4s" should be called "iphone, 2011" The one that we're all waiting for then would be called: "iphone, 2012."Makes sense to me.
 
PLEASE Apple... If you know what's good for you, call it "iPhone". Then we can stop these pages and pages of endless rants!

I only have the guts to say this because I can't get down-voted any more :D
 
This phone should be a tribute to Steve. Maybe even have Steve signature engraved on the back side of the phone.

^^ Isn't this what you people said about the 4S ?? "For Steve" or some nonsense like that ??

At least that Apple sells a NeXT version of the phone where the extra money goes to cancer research( Um ...No this would never happen as Apple keeps it's money and never does ANY kind of charity) or buying MSFT shares. (with enough MSFT shares, we can finally close down MSFT and make the world much better) Microsoft and Bill Gates have helped the world in so many ways it would make your head spin. Tell me what Steve Jobs did other than making shiny expensive toys ?

This post was too much, I couldn't take it.

I had to comment.

My comments are in red
 
PLEASE Apple... If you know what's good for you, call it "iPhone". Then we can stop these pages and pages of endless rants!

I only have the guts to say this because I can't get down-voted any more :D

Just like the New iPad. It's not called the new iPad, it is just the iPad. It is just referred to as the new iPad to differentiate it between the old iPad. If they announce it as the New iPhone, of course it's the new iPhone because it's not the old one. It's still called the iPhone.

It's no different that asking someone if they saw the new Cadillac.
 
Just thought I'd weigh in on a few things.

I really do feel that design is quite disgusting. It's very 'un apple', particularly the two toned back. I am not getting that anxious about it being the final design at this point though because I'm remembering back to what happened before the 4s launch last year, and how certain most people were that we were going to get a teardrop shaped phone. We all know what happened with that. Months worth of rumours were proven to be false with the unveiling of the 4s. There seems to be a larger volume of rumours that go around about the iPhone than any other product and most of them are very hard to believe.

I don't understand why there's no much tension around the naming of this device. To me it is clear, it will just be 'iPhone', much in the same way the newest iPad is called 'iPad'. I really feel Apple is trying to shake the pattern of naming their devices numerically. Personally I think it will sound pretty weird in a decades time walking into an Apple store and asking for an 'iPhone 14s' and that's the primary reason I think they're ditching the numbers. It works REALLY well with the Mac products, you don't go around saying that you have a MacBook Air 4. You just say you have a MacBook Air and people know what you're talking about. Apple don't want confusion with all these variations on their products, they want their current one to be front and centre and that's all there is to it. Just one iPhone, the iPhone.

Ok, so the other big issue being discussed here is screen size. I'm probably on the outer about this. Firstly, I'm one of the rare people who actually think the current iPhone screen size is great. Sure it looks small compared to Android devices, but in terms of ergonomics, it's absolutely perfect for what I need. If I want a bigger screen, I'll use an iPad or Mac. There's definitely advantages to larger screens of course. More real estate, easier on the eyes in some ways etc. But being able to comfortably access all of the 4s's screen with one of my thumbs is just so awesome to me. These devices SHOULD be small and compact. They are phones, not tablets. Samsung, HTC etc are just trying to differentiate themselves from Apple with the oldest trick in the book. Bigger is better. I wonder if Apple will succumb to their pressure and increase size. If they do it I think it will be for one reason, that they genuinely believe it creates a better user experience for the consumer. Apple do not easily succumb as can be seen in their notebooks. Most of them have a 16:10 ratio which is different from nearly every other notebook out there which have 16:9 aspect ratios. Clearly 16:10 is slightly more antiquated looking if comparing to other laptops, but it's also obviously a better user experience with much larger real estate!
 
iPhone 5 (6th generation) ...sounds odd.

Yeah, iPhone 6.

I was wondering how long it would take me to reach the rediculous "its not iPhone 5" posts. Didn't take too long.

The iPhone 5 moniker is the most widely used term to describe the next iPhone. When someone says "iPhone 5", everyone knows exactly what it means. So please stop it with these posts. Who cares what it's called. And more then likely, it's just going to be the new "iPhone" anyway. But again, WHO FREAKIN CARES!!!
 
they need to stop being lazy and innovate again. adding simply more "apps" that are mostly just partnered programs "yielp ...." wont cut it for too long. see what happened to nokia and bberry?

they may be on top right now but that can change in a heart beat.

i know people dont really care about personal experience on here but of my friends im the only one left with an iPhone. everyone else who used to have an iphone switched to samsung or htc (hell i cant even stand htc)

i love my mac and my ipad but if i wouldnt be so tied to the iCloud and apple ecosystem i may have jumped ship along with them

There's some hard reality to this... Most people I know are heading the same way. Jumping ship to Samsung. The larger display is what they want... not the tired old iphone form factor. I had a look and play with an S3, and it's not stuttery and jerky like it used to be. It's becoming a very slick product.

Personally I think it's understandable that people would want to change.
Apple really need to try to keep ahead of the game.
Instead of them being leaders, it will be apple playing catch-up to Samsung. Sadly this may have already started.
 
they need to stop being lazy and innovate again. adding simply more "apps" that are mostly just partnered programs "yielp ...." wont cut it for too long. see what happened to nokia and bberry?

they may be on top right now but that can change in a heart beat.

i know people dont really care about personal experience on here but of my friends im the only one left with an iPhone. everyone else who used to have an iphone switched to samsung or htc (hell i cant even stand htc)

i love my mac and my ipad but if i wouldnt be so tied to the iCloud and apple ecosystem i may have jumped ship along with them

You should really try one of those new Droids. Man this SG3 in my hand really rocks. Get all your essential stuff on Dropbox, Picasa and the like and become platform agnostic again! It's really worth it!
 
I don't see how "New" would work for either the ipad or iphone. What do they do next year? Are they going to call them "Newer?" I think they should copy the auto industry and use the year as part of their name. My iphone "4s" should be called "iphone, 2011" The one that we're all waiting for then would be called: "iphone, 2012."Makes sense to me.

At some point through the lifecycle of the product they're probably going to drop the "new" title. There would only ever be one "new" product at a time with a gap in between the titles of "new" products so people don't get confused. It could definitely be less confusing though.
 
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I think they are already seriously lagging behind. And what we've seen so far of the iPhone 5 isn't very encouraging. I don;t know why apple are so opposed to making the iphone a bit bigger, these larger 4/4.5" Android phones are flying off the shelf - so consumers obviously want them and are not put off by the larger size.

I think you're confusing correlation here. Android phones with large screens aren't flying off the shelf because of the big screen, it's just that the only Android phones worth buying happen to have large screens. The only Android phones with 3.5-4" screens are low-spec'ed and cheap.

I believe there is large group of people who would rather not have a 5" screens. They're buying these large phones because there isn't really any other option (except for the iphone).
 
So I can see it now: Tim: "and now, the iPhone 6!! Any questions from the press?"
"Yes, Tim, what happened to the iPhone 5?"
Tim: "Uh... Next question please"
"Thanks Tim, was the iPhone 5 aborted? What went wrong?"
Tim: "Nothing went wrong, it's the iPhone 6! Doesn't anyone have any questions about the iPhone 6?" (crickets)
Tim: "Ok, you sir."
"About this aborted iPhone 5...."

Yeah, it'll be called the iPhone 6 alright. Idiots.

No one is saying it's going to be called the iPhone 6. We're saying it is the iPhone 6 and doesn't make sense to be called the iPhone 5. Chances are good they're dropping the numbers altogether like they did with the iPad.

Tim Cook doesn't take questions. And saying "it's the 6th generation iPhone" would completely satisfy the question if indeed someone did ask him in a rare interview.
 
There's some hard reality to this... Most people I know are heading the same way. Jumping ship to Samsung. The larger display is what they want... not the tired old iphone form factor. I had a look and play with an S3, and it's not stuttery and jerky like it used to be. It's becoming a very slick product.

Personally I think it's understandable that people would want to change.
Apple really need to try to keep ahead of the game.
Instead of them being leaders, it will be apple playing catch-up to Samsung. Sadly this may have already started.

If some of the new iOS 6 UIs are a testament to the future of Apple design, then they're only going to fall farther behind.

One of the major things I'm talking about is the new iPod layout. It's a step backward IMO.
 
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