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Folks all mobile phones use RF. RF is blocked by all materials at varying degrees. Unless you want an old school telescoping antenna deal with it.
 
I'm not saying that this will affect me in my day to day use. If Wi-Fi signal goes down just because I pick the phone up, you bet I'll be returning this phone and going back to a 4S.

I'm not posting this thread to start a sh*tstorm or anything like that. I think the iPhone 5 is beautiful and it's the best phone I've ever used. However, I've come to expect perfection from everything Apple does, and you have to agree that they overlooked this area. I've never seen another phone lose Wi-Fi signal because of the way you hold it. Apple demoed some losing cellular signal during the iPhone 4 fiasco, but no one managed to reproduce them...

Actually I don't have to agree at all because I think you've drawn the wrong conclusions. For a kick off this isn't a "death grip". Did some very quick testing this morning with one hand covering the glass and the other parallel over the top of the phone. In a strong signal area, no change in bars at all. I *could* get it to drop from 3 to 2 but only when standing about six inches from the point that happens anyway. A 'death grip' implies that signal, well, dies. What you're talking about is a slight loss of signal when the antenna is covered.

As for 'no-one managed to reproduce other phones loosing signal' - rubbish. Every single phone I've owned since 1998 has done exactly that if you hold them in a certain way. Well, with the exception of one Nokia but that had a radio so strong it would kill any other mobile phone's reception within a five yard radius. WiFi is no different and you yourself admit that you have to go out of your way to cause a signal drop.

Basically Apple haven't overlooked this issue at all because... it isn't an issue. From what you've posted here and my own quick testing for the vast, vast, VAST majority of people it will never have an impact in normal use. Someone needs to just do a quick check (with actual numbers) of the actual impact on wireless reception but it's realistically only going to affect those who totally cover the antenna AND happen to be in a really marginal signal area.

Oh and before anyone says it I'm not defending Apple here, if there's a fault it needs to be picked up and rectified. I'm just sick and tired of people blowing every little tiny detail out of all proportion rather than actually applying some common sense to the situation. :mad:
 
i did a lot of testing with apple about this. on the three phones we tested all you have to do is put 1 finger right above the silent/vibrate button and it starts dropping signal then eventually drops 100%
 
Here we go...

...I am posting this video because this is a genuine issue that is present with the iPhone 5 hardware.

...The iPhone 5 actually has a similar problem as I have discovered, although it is related to Wi-Fi. If you actually cover the top part of the iPhone's back (the part made of glass) in a specific way, you will actually lose Wi-Fi signal strength....

...This is very real....This problem exists regardless if you use 2.4GHz or 5GHz.

Now, this problem isn't nearly as big as the iPhone 4, because only a retard who is deliberately trying to reproduce this problem (cough) would ever hold the phone that way. The reason why I haven't discovered this bug up till now is because if you hold the phone normally, there's no way you'll completely cover the top glass area with your hands. I did it accidentally and suddenly my Wi-Fi signal vanished. That's how I discovered this bug.

...However, this Wi-Fi problem is very real, and I would just like to bring this to the attention of everyone....


Pointless post, but I'll bite anyways (against my better judgement)...

As I've pointed out for you above, your OP obviously postulates that you think you have discovered some sort of "bug," "problem," or "issue," yet throughout this thread, you have continually admonished those who point out the problems in your OP by excusing away your points. I'm sorry, but you can't have it both ways. You can't cry "Wolf!" but then when people point out that it's not a wolf claim that you whispered under your breath, "...maybe...."

So please listen closely:

Holding one's hand to intentionally cover the top of the phone, wherein lies the phone's WiFi antenna IS NOT NEWS. It's not a bug. It's not an issue. It's not a problem. It's not even a "death grip." What it is, is a scientific fact: RF waves travel better through air than they do through objects (E.g. a brick wall, a metal building, or your hand). Holding your phone in that ridiculous fashion proves nothing, except the aforementioned law of science/technology which everyone already knows.

I'm not sure why you took the time to test this little hypothesis, make/edit a video, and start this thread, but it's making mountains out of...not even molehills; it's making mountains out of nothing.

It's pointless.
 
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just tried this on my black iphone 5 16 gig att, i have an old ass router from like 2005 the linksys one that's half blue and black (im sure you guys know it) and i didn't lose one bar and i held it as tight as i could for 5 mins.
 
For you people who "would never hold your phone that way", have you never played a landscape game?

Many cases in conjunction with holding the phone landscape will cause this.
 
OP, I am with you on this and I do think that this is an issue!

I noticed this first when I was playing a game in landscape mode with online multiplayer. I continuously was being dropped from my games because of wifi issues, but when I'd return to the home page of still have 3 bars if Internet. So I thought the game had a bug and I deleted it, then the same thing happened with 2 other games I tried out.

Then I discovered the root of the problem when I was watching YouTube videos (holding phone in landscape) and midway through the videos would stop buffering and my phone would drop wifi and switch to 3G or LTE.

This IS a death grip for me. After holding my phone in landscape as if I were typing, I loose my wifi signal within 20 seconds, and yes I am standing 6 ft away from my router. I'll also loose at least 1 bar by covering one finger width of space anywhere on the top back glass plate. I'll loose all wifi if I cover the entire top back glass plate.

For those of you thinking that blocking the antenna isn't a natural grip, try holding your phone in landscape without touching the top back glass plate. This is a design flaw, and when I spend over $600 on a phone, I don't expect it to have any design flaws.
 
You guys realize that even the iPhone 4 had this issue. Just hugely overshadowed by the OTHER antenna issue.
 
Ever heard the saying "making a mountain out of a mole hill?" Like it or not, that is an honest, accurate assessment of this "issue."
 
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