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Of course it is opinion. But do you still believe that such compensation would come from some unfounded sense of "entitlement," as was your initial assertion when I suggested it might be merited? That was the impetus for this exchange.

No but let's not derail this thread with our opinions because they're irrelevant.
 
Of course it is opinion. But do you still believe that such compensation would come from some unfounded sense of "entitlement," as was your initial assertion when I suggested it might be merited? That was the impetus for this exchange.

Nope, I don't think he does. The problem is, you create a sense of "entitlement" when you start implying that people are owed something for inconvenience. Maybe he is, but this is the extent of it: AN APOLOGY. Not money, not a free case, not gas for his trouble... It's ridiculous that the first place everyone turns when there is an inconvenience is "compensation". It's LIFE. Life is FULL of uncompensated inconveniences.

As for the "problem" it's a little fishy but I promise you this: DEMONSTRATE (not by video, but by leaving the phone in it's non-functional state) that it won't work and he will get an exchange. The truth is, a video proves NOTHING. Maybe he had tape on his finger, maybe it wasn't the actual phone in question, who knows.

Why would he do this? Maybe there is something ELSE he's not telling them going on. Who knows. But believe me when I say that the people at the Apple store have seen LOTS of fraudulent behavior, and a video of an issue that can't be reproduced in person is NOT going to clear their minds.

All he has to do is recreate a legitimate issue in front of them (NOT on a video). Bam! Working phone. Problem solved.

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Al these horror stories make me scared :/ I have my 5S since two weeks and it still works like a charm...
 
So I brought my iPhone into my local Apple Store to get a replacement iPhone because of battery issues (it's not lasting nearly as long as it should be) and because the fingerprint sensor on my iPhone stops working every 3-4 hours and only works again after a reboot. I took a video of the fingerprint sensor not working and went to the Apple Store the next day (today) and showed it to them and they said they can't replace it because of the battery because it's showing up as normal and they can't replace it because of the fingerprint sensor because there is no way for them to test it.

I'm now out of my 14-day return period with a defective phone. Any suggestions? Should I call AppleCare?

If they still don't want to help you file a dispute with you Credit Card company, if thats how you payed. I know some CC companies have buyer protection so just filing a claim that way would be more smoother, otherwise just filling a regular dispute would also work.
 
So I brought my iPhone into my local Apple Store to get a replacement iPhone because of battery issues (it's not lasting nearly as long as it should be) and because the fingerprint sensor on my iPhone stops working every 3-4 hours and only works again after a reboot. I took a video of the fingerprint sensor not working and went to the Apple Store the next day (today) and showed it to them and they said they can't replace it because of the battery because it's showing up as normal and they can't replace it because of the fingerprint sensor because there is no way for them to test it.

I'm now out of my 14-day return period with a defective phone. Any suggestions? Should I call AppleCare?

Granted what I'm about to tell you is from AppleCare+, call up apple care as you're still under warranty, tell them your issue and when you get to the point of a replacement, you can either send it and once they receive it they'll send you a replacement or you can do an advanced replacement and you'll get a replacement phone first. The only problem with advance replacement is that they put a hold of around $750 on your credit card. Either way advancement or not you get a replacement phone that is working.

AppleCare 1 (800) 275-2273. (Stateside)
 
if you've had problems from day one u should not have let it go beyond the return period, should have returned to point of purchase within the RP.

I didn't wait. This is already my second 5S. I'm not a picky person at all, but I know that if a new device that I just bought has a problem, I better get it fixed ASAP if I want to avoid getting hassled by the Geniuses. The first 5S that I had actually did have a faulty battery that had a battery health of 73%, but it still got better battery life than my second 5S. Now on top of this one getting worse battery life while showing up as 100% normal in diagnostics, it's also got a faulty fingerprint sensor which I've showed them through video evidence and in person. Both forms of evidence weren't enough and I keep getting denied a replacement.

Kind've off topic, but it all comes down to the genius you get. One time, with my iPhone 4S it had a serious bug that made the usage and standby time on the phone run at the same time. No matter how many restores I did or setting up the phone as new resolved the issue. So after I took the phone in for the third time, they just swapped it out for me. The phone clearly had no physical damage, so they didn't think twice about it at that point.

Yup, 100% truth right here. When I got the replacement for my first 5S, the Genius exchanged it no questions asked and apologized many times for the inconvenience. The Genius I had on Friday was rude, unfriendly, and didn't seem like he wanted to be there at all, let alone help any customers.

No but let's not derail this thread with our opinions because they're irrelevant.

I like this suggestion. ;)

It's funny, though, because they actually did end up compensating me even though I didn't want to be compensated.

what's your battery life like? are you calibrating correctly?

About 4.5-5 hours of usage, 7-8 hours of standby, all settings that are rumored to drain battery are disabled and it's on wifi all day. Calibrated 3 times now, done over 4 full restores and setup as new all four times. Didn't sync any apps, music, etc. from iTunes either.

If they still don't want to help you file a dispute with you Credit Card company, if thats how you payed. I know some CC companies have buyer protection so just filing a claim that way would be more smoother, otherwise just filling a regular dispute would also work.

I ended up just calling AppleCare and explained to them what happened and they apologized profusely for the horrible service I was given and told me that no device that is two weeks old should be having any issues, especially with Touch ID as that's a major feature. They're sending me an express replacement and are even including one of the new leather 5S cases as a way to prove they're sorry for the service that I was given (or not given). They're even waiving the $29 express fee. Very happy with how AppleCare handled the situation.

Granted what I'm about to tell you is from AppleCare+, call up apple care as you're still under warranty, tell them your issue and when you get to the point of a replacement, you can either send it and once they receive it they'll send you a replacement or you can do an advanced replacement and you'll get a replacement phone first. The only problem with advance replacement is that they put a hold of around $750 on your credit card. Either way advancement or not you get a replacement phone that is working.

AppleCare 1 (800) 275-2273. (Stateside)

As I said above, I called them and they got everything settled and are sending me an express replacement and are waiving the usual $29 express service fee. They're also sending me one of the new leather cases for the 5S as to prove they're sorry for the horrible experience I had at the Apple Store. They handled the situation very well and agreed that if I couldn't get a replacement for the battery, I at least should've gotten one for the problems with the fingerprint sensor.
 
OP - you have a legit issue (intermittently working fingerprint sensor), so you need to escalate this up the chain.
 
I don't really wanna post it since I show my face in the video (to prove to the Genius that it's actually my video and not some random on YouTube), but essentially what I show in the video is me trying to unlock the phone with my thumb or index finger and nothing happening at all. I then restart the phone and use the same two fingers and it unlocks without any problems.

Why, do you think we will track you down with face recognition??
 
I don't really wanna post it since I show my face in the video (to prove to the Genius that it's actually my video and not some random on YouTube), but essentially what I show in the video is me trying to unlock the phone with my thumb or index finger and nothing happening at all. I then restart the phone and use the same two fingers and it unlocks without any problems.

Why, do you think we will track you down with face recognition??

Yeah I'd be more concerned that Apple has his finger prints ;)
 
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