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dawideksl

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Sep 11, 2013
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Hello, i understand that sept.20 the new iPhone will be available in the U.S and couple of countries in Europe (Germany, France....)etc. My question is, when do You think it'll become available in Poland and other countries? iPhone 5 was available after a month, am I right?
 
No, Poland was in the second wave, which came a week after the first rollout date.
Following this pattern, one would guess september 27th would be the release date in the second wave countries. However, Apple has not communicated anything on that matter yet, which is unusual and probably brings up problems in production.
 
Some Danish carriers have begun signing people up in queues, although I do not think they have gotten any info from apple. I'm hoping for the second wave :)
 
Some Danish carriers have begun signing people up in queues, although I do not think they have gotten any info from apple. I'm hoping for the second wave :)

I'm hoping for that too, i'm on iPhone 4 since it's launch (white), and i don't want to wait until nov/dec for the new iP ;)
 
Some Danish carriers have begun signing people up in queues, although I do not think they have gotten any info from apple. I'm hoping for the second wave :)

I doubt all the local carriers are not aware of Apple's moves, but no leaks so far.
 
Hello, i understand that sept.20 the new iPhone will be available in the U.S and couple of countries in Europe (Germany, France....)etc. My question is, when do You think it'll become available in Poland and other countries? iPhone 5 was available after a month, am I right?

From what Apple said, the launch on 20th September is 9 countries, with the second release wave being December 2013 and covering 100 countries. So, presumably Poland will be in round 2.

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More evidence (along with the no-preorders thing) that the 5S is going to have limited availability..
 
Maybe they're telling us that in december 5S will be available in all 100 countries, but maybe (i hope), there will be couple of waves between september and december. (like it was with iP 5)
 
Maybe they're telling us that in december 5S will be available in all 100 countries, but maybe (i hope), there will be couple of waves between september and december. (like it was with iP 5)

I doubt it, they announced the date and countries of second release at the same time as the first release was announced last year.

If you aren't in the first 9 countries you can look forward to the announced second release, 100 countries in December.

China is going to be huge demand, so Apple are giving themselves space to build stock again for round 2.

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I'm hoping for that too, i'm on iPhone 4 since it's launch (white), and i don't want to wait until nov/dec for the new iP ;)

Why not take a day trip to Germany?
 
Apple didn't say that the second wave would be Dec13.

They said that by Dec13 it will be available in 100 countries.

I believe that the second wave will happen around the first week of October...
 
Apple didn't say that the second wave would be Dec13.

They said that by Dec13 it will be available in 100 countries.

I believe that the second wave will happen around the first week of October...

Not according to the slides, no "by" there. Just "December 2013 100 countries"

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Not according to the slides, no "by" there. Just "December 2013 100 countries"

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Ok, but it was said "by the end of the year". Do You really think they can handle 90+ countries in one (second) wave? i doubt it. I think iP5S deliveries will be split in couple of waves, and will end in december - by the end of the year, but it's only my opinion.
 
Not according to the slides, no "by" there. Just "December 2013 100 countries"

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That's what the slide says yes. But Phil said the phone would be available in over 100 countries by December, I think it's highly likely that the 5s will be released sooner in a lot of countries.
 
Well, I hope so for the people in second wave countries, but I wouldn't rely on it. If I was close to a first wave country I would probably plan a day trip (like Poland to Germany) and queue next week.
 
Not according to the slides, no "by" there. Just "December 2013 100 countries"

Not according to Phil Schiller, who used that slide as a reference to what he was saying.
He said that by the end of the year, iPhone would be in 100 countries.
The first wave countries are included in that 100.

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I have read earlier today that a New Zealand carrier is going to have a launch for 10th of October. Don't know how reliable that is, but it would point to a first week of October Apple release.
 
For those interested:

a handful of operators in other countries across the continent have already revealed they'll be getting both devices. While none of the carriers are currently giving a date for when the 5c and 5s will be available on their networks, or how much they might cost when they arrive, all are asking customers to register their emails to be kept up to date on the handsets, and describing the devices as "coming soon".

Source
 
Not according to Phil Schiller, who used that slide as a reference to what he was saying.
He said that by the end of the year, iPhone would be in 100 countries.
The first wave countries are included in that 100.

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I have read earlier today that a New Zealand carrier is going to have a launch for 10th of October. Don't know how reliable that is, but it would point to a first week of October Apple release.

But still all supposition, it won't help the OP if he decides to skip the 20th release, and then finds his country's release is in December.

We could all guess, I'm trying to answer only on the facts (as limited as they are). It's a pity Apple haven't been more forthcoming with information.

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Anyone know if the German iPhones er unlocked to European carriers? Specifically Danish carriers? Then a trip to Germany would be a sound idea for me :)

Pretty sure all the Euro Apple Stores sell unlocked stock (while carrier stores sell locked).
 
But still all supposition, it won't help the OP if he decides to skip the 20th release, and then finds his country's release is in December.

We could all guess, I'm trying to answer only on the facts (as limited as they are). It's a pity Apple haven't been more forthcoming with information.

No facts support what you are stating. Apple have never stated anything would be available in December, but by December.
As stated twice, Apple said the new iPhone models would be in 100 countries by December.
iPhones have always been released in waves of countries, and nothing suggests this year that approach will change.
It is absurd to think Apple would launch new iPhone models in 90 countries at once in December too.
Carriers are also hinting at a near release, as I posted above.
 
No facts support what you are stating. Apple have never stated anything would be available in December, but by December.
As stated twice, Apple said the new iPhone models would be in 100 countries by December.

So exactly what I said?

iPhones have always been released in waves of countries, and nothing suggests this year that approach will change.
It is absurd to think Apple would launch new iPhone models in 90 countries at once in December too.
Carriers are also hinting at a near release, as I posted above.

Leaving all the "suggesting", "thinking" and "hinting" out, do you have absolute proof of information that the OP will see a release in Poland before December?

Hard facts that guarantee if he decides to skip the German launch on the 20th that he is 100% definitely able to buy in Poland in October?

The real facts as they are, Apple have announced the 20th of September and that in December there will be 100 countries receiving the iphone. Any more than that is just your "suggestions, thoughts and hints".
 
So exactly what I said?

You said:

From what Apple said, the launch on 20th September is 9 countries, with the second release wave being December 2013 and covering 100 countries. So, presumably Poland will be in round 2.

If you aren't in the first 9 countries you can look forward to the announced second release, 100 countries in December.

Not according to the slides, no "by" there. Just "December 2013 100 countries"

As said now multiple times :rolleyes:, Apple have stated that the new iPhone models would be available in a total of about 100 countries by December.
That does not mean that the new iPhone models will be released in December in 100 countries, and that does not mean that the second wave will be in December. It also does not mean that a second wave would include 100 countries, as well as it does not mean that there will be a release in 100 countries happening in December.

For instance, if all iPhones would be released by November, Apple would be correct.

I still do not see your source when you state that a "second release wave being December 2013", or that the "second release, 100 countries in December", and I see you have either ignored or completely missed what others are saying about what Apple stated in the keynote.

Leaving all the "suggesting", "thinking" and "hinting" out, do you have absolute proof of information that the OP will see a release in Poland before December?

Sourced suggestions, reasonable thoughts based on history and official hints by carriers make for enough of a proof to state that the new iPhone models are coming to second wave countries "soon".

Hard facts that guarantee if he decides to skip the German launch on the 20th that he is 100% definitely able to buy in Poland in October?

Read above. All that I wrote is based on either sources or the past, and there is no evidence of it not happening this year.
At all.

The real facts as they are, Apple have announced the 20th of September and that in December there will be 100 countries receiving the iphone. Any more than that is just your "suggestions, thoughts and hints".

Yet again, you are wrong.
In December there will not be 100 countries receiving the iPhone, that's your personal thought, and it has no source.
In December, a total of 100 countries will have received, since September, the new iPhone models. That means that 90 countries, over the 10 of the first wave, will see the new iPhone models coming between September and December.

Seems like you should pay more attention to words. :rolleyes:
 
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