THIS! I'm on Cricket (AT&T towers) and I'm sometimes disappointed with reception. I'm assuming this will improve things. I also know that the 8 did not have T-Mobile Band 71 (600 MHz) - they will also get a signal improvement. It's what's inside that counts the most...
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iPhone 6, 6s, & 7 vs. iPhone SE: Should You Upgrade?
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Sure, when you are out of work and your savings are gone and your 401k is down 40%, its a perfect time to spend more money.
It’s tough for some, maybe a lot, but not for everybody. And unless you plan on retirement in the near future the markets will eventually rebound.
iPhone 6S was released in 2015 and received exactly 5 iOS releases (from iOS 9 to iOS 13).
it will be 5 years since launch in September....and in my view whilst it was the flagship phone for Apple until September 16, it should be getting the “5 years” of software support until September 21?
The same thing 🤦🏻♂️
you can’t help it, right ? You have to cast a bad light over Apple in every comment on the forum, even if your statement is completely false like in this case.
Jump from a 6S to the SE is huge.
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iPhone 6, released in September 2014 received iOS 12 as the last upgrade. So you are historically wrong.
There is no “5 years support” written anywhere. But you can expect 5 iOS releases on a brand new iPhone.
Nothing is written anywhere. I am not historically wrong at all, the iPhone 6S launched in September 15 (Sept 25) Furthermore the article states 5 years as well as numerous posters in this thread as why the SE is such a great upgrade. Personally, for me, most iOS updates are meaningless aside from the less obvious bug / security fixes that Apple pushes out (that are fundamentally invisible to the user). Time will tell if the 6S gets another “major” (but meaningless) iOS update.
Agreed. The second generation SE is a worthwhile upgrade coming from the 6 or older (including the 5s which Apple dropped support for alongside the 6). Of course, users of the 6 or older technically don't have to upgrade but these devices are stuck on older iOS iterations and as time goes by app support for them will significantly diminish.
The 6s (which my parents currently use) is definitely still a good phone. I currently have an 8+, but I would've carried on using my 6s if my parents' 6 (yes they share a phone) wasn't on its last legs last September. I'll probably carry on using my 8+ either until it breaks or when Apple drops iOS support for it. It's still a really good phone and I don't need to spend hundreds of dollars for minor improvements when my current one is more than capable for my uses.
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It’s the display resolution making you feel the inadequacy of 2GB. It’s driving almost twice the resolution of iPhone 7 which means using higher quality app elements that eate up at that 2GB RAM.
I’d agree that Apple’s chip design has outpaced software innovation (features that slows down iPhones every year). And I agree that RAM stinginess is a result of supply chain sorcery TIM is known for. Use any older parts from a device and you can watch TIM throw together a rehashed version of the device. This time it was the iPhone 7 logic board which had to find a new home when iPhone 8 was introduced.
Unlike android counterparts, RAM is not slapped on willy nilly up to 16GB for example. Wasted RAM means wasted battery life trying to store an app from a week ago.
A10 is still being sold in some devices like iPad and Apple TV 4K, which means it has got more software support down the pipeline (at least 3 more years). The iPhones weren’t able to take advantage of those compute powers.
Just read the comments and you'll see how out of touch the macrumors writers are. Good job macrumors!
If the 6s gets iOS 14 In September that would take it to September 2021 which is 6 full years of iOS software support.
Had an original iPhone SE and I thought this second version was gonna be its replacement (I actually had a preorder the moment it went live). However, i returned in within 5 minutes to opening it. Why?
Well basically because I usually hold onto phones for 3-4 years and I just didn’t want to use a design from the iPhone 6, something that mis 5 years old for another 3-4 years.
I care about screen and size and the 5.4” is even smaller than this iPhone SE and has a better OLED screen.
Well basically because I usually hold onto phones for 3-4 years and I just didn’t want to use a design from the iPhone 6, something that mis 5 years old for another 3-4 years.
I care about screen and size and the 5.4” is even smaller than this iPhone SE and has a better OLED screen.
Sadly this is not true. You can't Force/3D Touch swipe back to the last app on the SE. It also appears you can't Haptic Touch a notification on the lock screen. Big disappointment as I found out too late that I do these things a lot.
solid post!
that’s my whole argument I think, worth is entirely up to the end user. One person with an iPhone 6s or 7 may see the SE as a good upgrade, another may see it as pointless
my side of this debate though is you have so many people saying “you should” upgrade “if you have” an older phone. I don’t think that’s fair or appropriate, because what about the person whose effective use of the phone doesn’t change?
my 11 Pro is faster and more fluid overall than my 6s yes, A9 devices aren’t faster and more fluid. But you mean to tell me you disagree with the small relative speed difference?
it’s a very small difference, it really is. The 6s doesn’t chug or lag when moving around the home screen, it doesn’t take several second to load the calendar app or sending a text doesn’t take patience. It’s all pretty fast and not discernible from my A13 Pro device. If it was bothersome, why would you (or anyone) put up with using your A10 device? If anything I hear A10 owners complaining about Loop disease, not the speed of their phone or iPad
I don’t have an SE yet (they’re coming tomorrow) so I can’t comment on battery life, but having a 7 and 8 as well, I find no practical difference in those batteries versus the 6s. I certainly do not have 3 hours more SoT...and I have done that battery test enough times to be confident in that. When the 8 was fresh and new it got me through a day but ultimately 6s,7,8 all required 1-2 top ups and that doesn’t seem to change with the new SE. I still think the A13 will give a bit better battery but for a 6s or 7 user upgrading to this phone for battery, I dunno, still remains to be seen if it really adds that much more to a practical experience. my 7 on iOS 13 is at 93% battery health, and 8 is at 99% health.
My 6s has a tsmc chip and 100% battery health (full oem, Apple replacement) I concede, and that may not be the case for everyone with a 6s, but the speed difference between my 11 Pro and 6s is simply put not the same today on iOS 13 that the gap was between the 6s and the 4S in 2015 on iOS 9
and to that end, what is the worth in upgrading for someone who uses their phone to text and make calls and check emails then? Why should they have someone so effortlessly state “yes you should upgrade” without respecting their usage and what they find important for them
I have my reasons for getting an 11 Pro. People here who have a 6s and 7, who are upgrading to the new SE, have their reasons for getting a 2020 SE. It’s our money and our financial situations that can dictate these things. Someone may just want a new toy and that’s fine.
but what isn’t fair is to tell someone they should upgrade when their needs don’t suit it and there’s a lot of that going on, not just in this forum but also around the internet. There are many users here who have said “no thanks I am perfectly happy with my phone” and that should be respected, not beaten down with a “your needs don’t matter, you have an old phone so you should upgrade”
my whole point of the trade in value was to highlight how if Apple was selling a new 6s today for their trade in value at 50$ or even 80$, that might be more of a steal for some people than the 600$ CAD or 400$USD pre-tax price of an SE
and the A9, and yes your A10 as well, are more than capable of running the basic necessities of these phones to provide a comfortable user experience. A 6s owner will unlock their phone just as quick as a new SE owner will For example.
if someone identifies it’s important for them to upgrade because they’re just frustrated and fed up with their experience, and we can respect that, then why are some people carrying a narrative that owners of older phones “should” upgrade if they own that older device?
The SE may in fact not have any value to those users and may be a waste of money instead. And that’s the thing I think is not being respected when people say things like “oh if you have an iPhone 6s you should upgrade”
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the reigning champ for software support thus far has been the 5s! (However many years that is) from iOS 7 to 12.
If the 6s gets iOS 14, it would tie the 5s for most supported device. Imagine if it got iOS 15 - that would be unreal. But you never know, as the 6s was still sold brand new in emerging markets in FY 2019
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Assuming you’ve tried another cable already, you’ll need to replace the connector, might as well do the battery at the same time. I would have it done at an independent shop, should be less than $100 in total. But if you have the money to replace it, it’s probably time.
$499 CDN? Dream on, that’s a $64 discount. At $599, you’re paying $25 US more than we pay in the States. That’s hardly putting the screws to you.
But at $799 CDN, the XR is a good deal, it should be $845. You’re getting it at the equivalent of $566 US, we have to pay $599 here.
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And that’s why you shouldn’t panic-sell at the bottom of the market.
Locking in your loss at Dow 18,000 was not a great move. The market’s already up 30% off that low.
A family member of mine is so excited for this iPhone SE 2020 edition that I ordered them. Can’t wait to get it delivered next week.
If it gets the iOS 14, wouldn't the phone then have the latest software until September 2021? Isn't that 6 years from September 2015?
I just decided to upgrade my iPhone 7 to an SE. I don’t want to pay $699+ now for the “good” phone when a new one is coming out in <6 months, but I also don’t want to keep living with my dying 7 for months. I think the SE is the perfect stopgap for a year that I can be happy with and decide later on if I want to drop $1000+ on an iPhone 12.
I have a 7 Plus and my wife a 7 and both are fine. I have replace the battery on my wife's once but that was $80. I will take a look at this years phones as long as they support 5G as I feel that will be a good long term investment.
The SE looks to be a good entry phone which I would get one of my kids. However we have generally gone with handme downs so I guess they would my either mine or my wife's phone.
The SE looks to be a good entry phone which I would get one of my kids. However we have generally gone with handme downs so I guess they would my either mine or my wife's phone.