iPhone 6 AT&T preorder vs Next Plan Help!

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  1. twkroberts, Sep 17, 2014
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    twkroberts macrumors newbie

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    Hello, thanks I have a question and I hope someone has a suggestion. I preordered the iPhone 6 under Apple for AT&T but did an early upgrade on contract and payed 549.00. I found out today that since I am a mobile share customer I will lose my 25.00 discount that I have been receiving on the line that I just upgraded. I am thinking about taking the iPhone 6 to the Apple Store sometime on Friday and switching over to the next plan. I would get my 549.00 refund and I would not lose my 25.00 discount. What do you think I should do? I really need some advice. Also is this possible and can Apple do this?

    Thanks
     
  2. jaw3net macrumors regular

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    Best bet is to go to the AT&T store. Apple will not be able to make adjustments to your plan.

     
  3. twkroberts thread starter macrumors newbie

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    So your saying the best thing is AT&T Next?

    Thanks

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    But the AT&T store can switch the plan but Apple has to do the refund correct?
     
  4. mrjoeyjiffy macrumors member

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    absolutely return it and do next! If you are on a 10 gig or higher mobile share always do NEXT never do 2 year, lets take your situation for example(I'm gonna use 7% sales tax since thats what im used to)

    Upfront cost $549 + $38.43 + $40 upgrade fee = $627.43 up front
    now add the cost of your service on a 2-year which is $40 a month x 24 months = $960

    Total cost for phone plus service over 2 years = $1587.43

    I'm assuming the retail cost of the phone you're talking about is $749 so correct me if I'm wrong, also this is doing the NEXT18 which is a 24 month program not the NEXT12 which is 20 months.

    Upfront cost is 7% of $749 = $52.43 (yup thats it no upgrade fee with NEXT)
    now your service will be $15(you keep your $25 monthly discount with next) + $31.21(cost of phone) =$46.21 a month x 24 months = $1109.04

    Total cost for phone plus service over 2 years = $1161.47

    as you can see this is a no brainer, lower upfront costs and lower cost over time not to mention the benefit of being able to pay it off early if you want.
     
  5. twkroberts thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thanks for a great explanation! I will get the new phone on Friday shipped to my house, so do you think if I take it to the Apple Store they can take care of the refund and switching it over to the next plan? Thanks again
     
  6. mrjoeyjiffy macrumors member

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    No problem I do these calculations daily lol :) you can imagine my frustration every once in a while when someone is so convinced that NEXT is ******** that they still do the 2 year even when I show them the math.

    To answer your other question I am not sure how apple does the whole swapping around thing, I know for sure you can start a new NEXT upgrade/activation there but not sure if you can do it if it's an exchange. There is a thread active about asking an apple employee anything perhaps try there?
     
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  8. lovelybai macrumors member

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    Att next is not available for in store purchase.
    You might have some problems.

    I guess you could buy it in full price instead because you already
    have the discount in mobile share.

     
  9. twkroberts thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I talked with Apple and I found out when I get the phone I can contact AT&T and switch to the Next plan and then call Apple back and then they will refund my money I paid for the phone. Sounds easy, but most likely will not be.
     
  10. RMSko macrumors 6502

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    I'm not sure this is right. My understanding after talking to AT&T is that you only get the $15/month fee if you are using a pre-existing phone. As soon as you get a new phone purchased from AT&T, they told me the monthly fee goes to $40/month. In other words, let's say I'm already on a plan and have an iPhone. If I switch to Next, my fee will go down to $15/month. However, if I then upgrade later and get a new phone, I believe the fee goes to $40/month. What I don't know is whether this applies the FIRST time you upgrade and switch to Next, but even if it doesn't, I think it would with your next upgrade.

    In addition to the above, my monthly fee for the phone under a two year contract is $30 and not $40 (again, $40 is tne Next price). And, for me I get a 20% corporate discount so my month fee is actually just $24/month.

    Also, you are in essence leasing the phone and the above calculation does not take into account the value of the iPhone if you buy it with a 2 year plan. After 2 years AT&T will allow you to unlock the phone and it would be worth a fair amount on eBay. You also could keep it as a backup if you wanted.

    Finally, AT&T is pushing the Next program VERY hard. The only reason they would be doing that IMO is if they make more money from it. I just don't see the Next program as being worth it, but it's a personal decision.
     
  11. jaw3net macrumors regular

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    mrjoeyjiffy calculated correctly. when you're on a next plan, your monthly fee is a discounted price of $25 (from $40).

    I think the AT&T rep was talking about a 2 year contract. Whenever you buy a phone on a 2yr contract, there is a one-time $40 activation fee as well as a monthly $40 phone access fee.

    AT&T next is the better option, especially if you're on a family mobile share plan. See http://att.com/next and https://www.att.com/shop/wireless/data-plans.html



     
  12. twkroberts thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Now after the message I am having second thoughts about this switching from the contract over to the next. Any other suggestions would be helpful. Thanks
     
  13. RMSko macrumors 6502

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    I am 100% certain that I am paying a monthly $30 access fee under a two year contract. In fact, my upgrade receipt even says that I will have a $30 monthly fee. However, maybe this is because I am grandfathered under an older plan, although I'm not certain. Also, for me, I also get a discount so I end up paying $24 per month per line (AT&T has many corporate discount programs). The bottom line is that Next is not always the better choice. I did the math and for me I would definitely come out worse with Next - and that doesn't even factor in the value of the phone at the end of the two year contract period. Of course the advantage with Next is you can get a new phone every year instead, but for me, that's not enough of a reason.
     
  14. mrjoeyjiffy macrumors member

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    If you are paying a $30 access fee you are on the old version of mobile share from last year not mobile share VALUE. I am talking about mobile share value as it is the only one with variable access fees($15 or $40 if you're on 10 gig or higher)

    There is nothing to debate here the math is simple you are just on a different plan here friend.

    This is as simple as I can make it, if you are on ANY plan besides Mobile Share Value you WILL pay more in the long run with NEXT, if you are on a mobile share value that is under 10 gigs then you need to do the math and figure what works best for you because its often close(if you have a scenario and would like me to break it down let me know and I will do it for you). If you are on a 10 gig or higher mobile share value then you should ALWAYS do next(or bring your own device, or full retail) just do NOT sign up for a new 2-year agreement as that is the least cost efficient.
     

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