I thought I would start a more specific topic for people in this exact camp. I ordered through AT&T at 12:46 AM (thank you useless Apple for screwing up your web site AGAIN) and have a October 12-23 delivery estimate. My colleague ordered the exact same phone at 12:11 AM and has a October 23- November 11 delivery date. That makes sense. I just spoke with AT&T and the rep said these are all very conservative estimates, she has seen people's estimated delivery dates drop already and said I should expect the same.