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jlyanks85

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I noticed this today when making a phone calls. Surfing the web, mail, Facebook, etc is all in LTE, but when as soon as I call somebody it automatically drops to 4G.

I reset network settings, and the cellular option on my phone is set to voice and data. I'm on ATT

Is this normal or is there a issue with my phone?
 
I noticed this today when making a phone calls. Surfing the web, mail, Facebook, etc is all in LTE, but when as soon as I call somebody it automatically drops to 4G.

I reset network settings, and the cellular option on my phone is set to voice and data. I'm on ATT

Is this normal or is there a issue with my phone?

Sorry, but that is normal for now. AT&T hasn't rolled out the VoLTE (Voice over LTE) as of yet, though rumors have it coming sometime this year to certain markets.
 
That is currently normal and has been happening since the first LTE iphone 5 came out. Same with the 5S and 5C.
Currently AT&T is rolling voice over LTE so when it gets turned on in your local area you will be able to make calls and use data while connected to LTE without dropping down to HSPA+
 
It's down to the network and not Apple. In the UK (on O2 at least) we cannot make calls over 4G, so the phone switches to 3G.
 
That is currently normal and has been happening since the first LTE iphone 5 came out. Same with the 5S and 5C.
Currently AT&T is rolling voice over LTE so when it gets turned on in your local area you will be able to make calls and use data while connected to LTE without dropping down to HSPA+

To add to Applejuiced's point; VoLTE will only be used if both handsets support the feature. Otherwise the phone will fallback to HSPA+ even in VoLTE markets.
 
Are you positive about that?
I'm not sure if that's the case currently on Verizon.
I think you're mixing volte with hd audio calling.

He's mixing them up cause I just used VOLTE on mine with T-Mobile and LTE was on during the whole call. I was talking to a friend on AT&T that has an iPhone 5s.
 
It's down to the network and not Apple. In the UK (on O2 at least) we cannot make calls over 4G, so the phone switches to 3G.

It's the same in Italy. There is no voice over 4G.

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I noticed this today when making a phone calls. Surfing the web, mail, Facebook, etc is all in LTE, but when as soon as I call somebody it automatically drops to 4G.

I reset network settings, and the cellular option on my phone is set to voice and data. I'm on ATT

Is this normal or is there a issue with my phone?

Did you mean " drops to 3G" ? :confused:
 
To add to Applejuiced's point; VoLTE will only be used if both handsets support the feature. Otherwise the phone will fallback to HSPA+ even in VoLTE markets.

The other user doesn't have to have VoLTE. I use it to talk to people on other carriers and even landlines on TMO. You might be confusing it with Verizon and HD Voice.
 
Did you mean " drops to 3G" ? :confused:

USA, for whatever reason, thinks they are special and has to do things differently. For us it is as follows:

LTE = what you see as 4G
4G = HSPA+ (I believe you see this as 3G too)
3G = What you see as 3G

There was a whole amrketing thing when LTE was first rolling out about HSPA+ being 4G because it was faster than standard HSPA... stupid, but it stuck.

Anyway, in theory, it is possible to see LTE, 4G, or 3G on US carriers (though it has been over two years since I saw 3G since everything has been updated to HSPA+ around here)
 
You aren't missing much with VoLTE right now. On T-Mobile when using VoLTE and driving, I drop the call anytime I go from a tower that supports VoLTE to a tower that doesn't. It's still very new and not perfect.
 
Sorry, but that is normal for now. AT&T hasn't rolled out the VoLTE (Voice over LTE) as of yet, though rumors have it coming sometime this year to certain markets.

I live near Portland, Oregon and I'm able to make phone calls while staying on LTE with my Verizon 6+ on the AT&T network. I'd take a screenshot but unfortunately iOS decides that I want to end the call when I hit the sleep/wake button.
 
I live near Portland, Oregon and I'm able to make phone calls while staying on LTE with my Verizon 6+ on the AT&T network. I'd take a screenshot but unfortunately iOS decides that I want to end the call when I hit the sleep/wake button.

I've read that there are some test markets that are live. Yours would seem to be one of them! There is';t anything official yet. If you ask AT&T reps they will more than likely deny it. Such is the case with all pilot projects, really.
 
USA, for whatever reason, thinks they are special and has to do things differently. For us it is as follows:

LTE = what you see as 4G
4G = HSPA+ (I believe you see this as 3G too)
3G = What you see as 3G

There was a whole amrketing thing when LTE was first rolling out about HSPA+ being 4G because it was faster than standard HSPA... stupid, but it stuck.

Anyway, in theory, it is possible to see LTE, 4G, or 3G on US carriers (though it has been over two years since I saw 3G since everything has been updated to HSPA+ around here)
Thank you for the explanation :D
I did notice that on my old iPhone 5, that showed LTE, after iOS 7 installation, where on the same network 4G appeared. Actually I have Vodafone 4G indicated.
And yes, I can confirm that in Europe HSPA+ is still reported as 3G (Vodafone network in Italy is almost all HSPA+/LTE).
so basically in Europe you can't have voice over 4G (it always reverts to 3G), while you can in USA (being HSPA+).
 
USA, for whatever reason, thinks they are special and has to do things differently. For us it is as follows:

LTE = what you see as 4G
4G = HSPA+ (I believe you see this as 3G too)
3G = What you see as 3G

There was a whole amrketing thing when LTE was first rolling out about HSPA+ being 4G because it was faster than standard HSPA... stupid, but it stuck.

Anyway, in theory, it is possible to see LTE, 4G, or 3G on US carriers (though it has been over two years since I saw 3G since everything has been updated to HSPA+ around here)

don't forget about that damn "E" that some of us still see. Tmobile actually shows:

LTE = LTE
4G= HSPA+
E = Edge

I don't think I have ever seen a 3G on tmobile.
 
don't forget about that damn "E" that some of us still see. Tmobile actually shows:

LTE = LTE
4G= HSPA+
E = Edge

I don't think I have ever seen a 3G on tmobile.

It used to show "3G" back before they officially started carrying the iPhone. Apple released a carrier update that changed it to "4G" shortly after they got the iphone. The iphone 4, 3GS, and 3G will still display "3G".

Also T-Mobile and AT&T can still display "GPRS" in those rare areas where this is still the only available data.
 
don't forget about that damn "E" that some of us still see. Tmobile actually shows:

LTE = LTE
4G= HSPA+
E = Edge

I don't think I have ever seen a 3G on tmobile.

I did forget that :(
I haven't seen E for two years (except when I tried TMO for a very brief spell). I feel for you.
 
I've read that there are some test markets that are live. Yours would seem to be one of them! There is';t anything official yet. If you ask AT&T reps they will more than likely deny it. Such is the case with all pilot projects, really.

Few live markets right now! Boston is a few weeks away, according to the AT&T folk I've talked to around here.

http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/services/hd-voice.html

HD Voice is available in the following coverage areas:
Georgia
Illinois (Central)
Illinois (North)
Indiana
Michigan
Minnesota
Nevada
North Carolina and South Carolina
Ohio (Central)
Ohio (North)
Oregon
Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Delaware
Tennessee and Kentucky
Texas (Central)
Texas (North)
Utah
Virginia
Virginia (West)
Washington
Washington DC, and Maryland
 
I haven't seen E for two years (except when I tried TMO for a very brief spell). I feel for you.

I don't think I've seen EDGE since I've had my iPhone 4.

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LOL they always tell me "we don't know"...

Good to hear though :D

Not the store reps. The tower crews, who happened to be replacing antennas, ontop of my apartment complex. I basically live under a giant AT&T/VZW tower. :cool:
 
I noticed this today when making a phone calls. Surfing the web, mail, Facebook, etc is all in LTE, but when as soon as I call somebody it automatically drops to 4G.

I reset network settings, and the cellular option on my phone is set to voice and data. I'm on ATT

Is this normal or is there a issue with my phone?

Sorry, but that is normal for now. AT&T hasn't rolled out the VoLTE (Voice over LTE) as of yet, though rumors have it coming sometime this year to certain markets.

AT&T has rolled out VoLTE to about 20 markets right now, mostly in the Midwest, but also DC. Check their coverage maps for HD Voice to see if VoLTE is active in your area.

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don't forget about that damn "E" that some of us still see. Tmobile actually shows:

LTE = LTE
4G= HSPA+
E = Edge

I don't think I have ever seen a 3G on tmobile.

T-Mobile is who lobbied the ITU so that they could call HSPA+ "4G" instead of 3G.

They are supposedly refarming the rest of their 2G towers to LTE by the end of the year. They claim they will have LTE coverage as extensive as Verizon's.

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You aren't missing much with VoLTE right now. On T-Mobile when using VoLTE and driving, I drop the call anytime I go from a tower that supports VoLTE to a tower that doesn't. It's still very new and not perfect.

I thought that VoLTE automatically hands off to UMTS/3G on GSM networks and it was only on Verizon that the call would automatically drop if you left an LTE area (since VoLTE doesn't natively support handoffs to CDMA, and Verizon isn't building the necessary infrastructure on their CDMA network to enable it).
 
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