iPhone 6 running iOS 9?

Tiguan

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Battery life dreadful but to be expected at this stage. I'd hold off installing unless you need to test your apps. As it stands, I personally can't use it as a daily driver.
 
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GreyOS

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anyone wonder why the battery is so bad?

I know that betas are work in progress but to announce 1 hour extra battery life at the keynote to me suggests it has been a focus in the last year of development and a goal reached before the keynote, rather than a guess at where the betas may end up after a few months of further development.

I also know that betas can add extra burden due to diagnostic logging, but I'm seeing usage time consistently match standby time meaning something is constantly running (even in permanent low power mode)- can this really be logging? funnily enough in a developer session this WWDC about energy saving, Apple said that logging is something that has been made more efficient!

so.. I see a few explanations:

1. I'm underestimating the burden of beta diagnostic logging etc.
2. the beta is a few weeks/months old, before they reached the 1 hour figure, because carriers have to approve releases. they often demo WWDC with a newer build than the first beta.
3. releasing it to many devices in the wild has revealed something they didn't expect in their lab tests.
4. please add your own???
 

crashoverride77

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anyone wonder why the battery is so bad?

I know that betas are work in progress but to announce 1 hour extra battery life at the keynote to me suggests it has been a focus in the last year of development and a goal reached before the keynote, rather than a guess at where the betas may end up after a few months of further development.

I also know that betas can add extra burden due to diagnostic logging, but I'm seeing usage time consistently match standby time meaning something is constantly running (even in permanent low power mode)- can this really be logging? funnily enough in a developer session this WWDC about energy saving, Apple said that logging is something that has been made more efficient!

so.. I see a few explanations:

1. I'm underestimating the burden of beta diagnostic logging etc.
2. the beta is a few weeks/months old, before they reached the 1 hour figure, because carriers have to approve releases. they often demo WWDC with a newer build than the first beta.
3. releasing it to many devices in the wild has revealed something they didn't expect in their lab tests.
4. please add your own???
Because background refresh and closing apps is not working properly according to people in this forum.
 
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1. I'm underestimating the burden of beta diagnostic logging etc.
2. the beta is a few weeks/months old, before they reached the 1 hour figure, because carriers have to approve releases. they often demo WWDC with a newer build than the first beta.
3. releasing it to many devices in the wild has revealed something they didn't expect in their lab tests.
4. please add your own???
Not on iOS. Version updates on iOS are carrier independent.
 

GreyOS

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Not on iOS. Version updates on iOS are carrier independent.
carriers can get betas before developers, certainly before the public for major releases, this is often reported. they have to check it is ok on their network and their carrier specific settings are working or see if they need to update then etc.

for example see this: https://www.macrumors.com/2014/08/19/ios-8-beta-6/

it is certainly possible there is other carrier testing we don't know about at all stages
 

GreyOS

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Because background refresh and closing apps is not working properly according to people in this forum.
thanks. but it's not so much what is causing it but how it crept in. between them confidently announcing extra battery life to releasing a beta and all these things being broken? weird
 

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Not on iOS. Version updates on iOS are carrier independent.
Carriers are typically seeded betas before those betas are released to developers. I'm assuming they have to be approved, but I have a feeling iOS updates have an easier approval process than Android updates.
 
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hxlover904

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yes, the battery life is pretty dreadful right now. and it seems really slow to open when i press the home button. a few glitches here and there. like settings freezes sometimes, when i try to enable text forwarding no codes show up on my computers, general sluggishness.

i'm debating on whether to stick it out to b2 or downgrade. it IS better than the first betas of either 7 or 8.
 
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0000757

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carriers can get betas before developers, certainly before the public for major releases, this is often reported. they have to check it is ok on their network and their carrier specific settings are working or see if they need to update then etc.

for example see this: https://www.macrumors.com/2014/08/19/ios-8-beta-6/

it is certainly possible there is other carrier testing we don't know about at all stages
Carriers are typically seeded betas before those betas are released to developers. I'm assuming they have to be approved, but I have a feeling iOS updates have an easier approval process than Android updates.
Oh I'm 100% positive carriers get to test it, but I doubt they have to "approve", or, unlike how it is on Android, I'm sure their either forced to approve or lose the iPhone line entirely. It's not like each carrier gets a unique version for their network. They get it for the same reason devs get it - bugs, and to test carrier side features (such as WiFi calling or VoLTE).
 

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Oh I'm 100% positive carriers get to test it, but I doubt they have to "approve", or, unlike how it is on Android, I'm sure their either forced to approve or lose the iPhone line entirely. It's not like each carrier gets a unique version for their network. They get it for the same reason devs get it - bugs, and to test carrier side features (such as WiFi calling or VoLTE).
While in China, China Telecom uses their own network and sell iPhone unique for their own network band, meaning ALL GSM users cannot use their SIM to simply enable data and call/SMS.
And apple is already a world phone from iPhone 3G, so doing such test before releasing the final software does make some sense.
 

GreyOS

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Oh I'm 100% positive carriers get to test it, but I doubt they have to "approve", or, unlike how it is on Android, I'm sure their either forced to approve or lose the iPhone line entirely. It's not like each carrier gets a unique version for their network. They get it for the same reason devs get it - bugs, and to test carrier side features (such as WiFi calling or VoLTE).
ah ok, but in the context of what I wrote these differences seem fairly semantic. let's just say that I meant there are probably newer builds than this beta, and not just internal ones but for external carrier testing too. perhaps these builds don't have the battery issues and that's why Apple felt confident announcing extra battery life rather than simply hoping it's something they would achieve in later betas :)
 

0000757

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While in China, China Telecom uses their own network and sell iPhone unique for their own network band, meaning ALL GSM users cannot use their SIM to simply enable data and call/SMS.
And apple is already a world phone from iPhone 3G, so doing such test before releasing the final software does make some sense.
That's a carrier settings situation though, not a specific version of iOS. The version of iOS on my iPhone 6 is identical to the version of iOS on their iPhone 6. The ONLY time I can think of when carriers had different iOS versions was when Verizon got the iPhone 4, and they had special 4.2.x versions that the AT&T and Global models didn't (they went straight to 4.3).

ah ok, but in the context of what I wrote these differences seem fairly semantic. let's just say that I meant there are probably newer builds than this beta, and not just internal ones but for external carrier testing too. perhaps these builds don't have the battery issues and that's why Apple felt confident announcing extra battery life rather than simply hoping it's something they would achieve in later betas :)
Ahh OK, I see what you're saying.
 

baller1308

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If you don't mind battery life being poor it is not all that bad. Some apps crashed on me, but were still functional for the most part. But I would wait for the next beta release.
 
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